I have a 94 ej1 with a d16y8(stock) running obd1 and have plans on upgrading it. I have no idea where to start i have a budget of $300 rightnow and ive looked into a chipped ecu, brian crower cams and valve springs, rods, pistons or a crank. The thing is what should i get first. I thought about getting the ecu first but then thought about the cams. After that i was wondering if my bottom end could take the power. But im not sure where to start. If someone could tell me what to start with and where to buy i would appreciate it.

Thanks

 

Buy a used nitro kit

 

Dont bother with cams unless you can afford to get it tuned. If you budget is 300 bucks then you need to explain what your end goal is. I could eat up half that budget with just maintenance items to take care of. If your car is already maintained, id put that money towards a B swap. No need to dump money into that motor, at the end of the day you will end up spending more money to power than a b swap.

 

True im not planning on building it i just want a good but small build for autocross racing. Not serious but just to get into like the scca. I was thinking about 250hp maybe a bit more. I know putting money into a d series is stupid i plan on saving and K or B swaping later just for now i want somthing that will but fun. I dont plan on winning anything i just want somthing fun

 

300 ain't gonna get you anywhere.

 

Stock internals will be OK up to around 200hp give or take.
Any head work won't net you very much power.

ECU is not a bad idea. If you get a chipped p28 with Hondata, you can use it now, and use it for when you swap a B series in later.

Your best bet for more hp, while remaining safe, is nitrous oxide.

Determine a goal for yourself. 300 wont get you very far in means of power adders, but can get you a few goodies for your suspension, which will help you more in auto-x than a turbo would.

 

Is nitrous used in autocross?

 

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...530000&alt=web

Would that ecu be any good?

 

Dude...be prepared if you don't get your money's worth.

 

OP, you need to stop posting, and start reading. You definitely need to stop giving shitty advice to other people, when you yourself don't have even half a clue as to what you're talking about.

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...tions-1998336/

 

OBD2 engine running on OBD1 ECU?

This would indicate the ECU is already chipped with a Y8 basemap.

Either way.... Your first move should be to research what you can do with the car via the FAQ NotARaCist provided, and also research your car by looking into things like the ECU to see if it's chipped as it seems you don't know the exact status of your car.

Summary, know your car, then know what you can do with it. After that, you can begin to plan.

 

Ive opened up the ecu its not chipped. It is a p28 ive checked. && thanks for the advice i just want a small build i dont plan on doing much to my car

 

Op?

 

o.p.

original poster, you.

 

Thanks

 

Gotchya. What you might or might not glean from this thread and the FAQ section is, if you don't chip and tune, nothing you do to the engine will provide any additional performance and can quite likely reduce performance and efficiency.

For example, your P28 (D16Z6) ECU running the Y8 is not efficient and may actually be reducing the performance potential of the motor.

This is exactly why you have received the responses you have and why I suggest you follow NARC's advise on reading up what you can do with the car in the FAQ sticky link provided to you.

I hope this clarifies a bit of the feedback you are receiving.

 

Thanks man! Honestly im trying to learn here im not expert at all so when people give me **** yeah pisses me off but when i ask and people like you response with actual good response somthing to learn from, its fine. So im guessing a chipped p28 with a y8 tune would probably be the best thing to go with rightnow then. If im wrong correct me. Like i said im just trying for 250hp i dont plan on dropping a grand in my d series

 

To hit 250hp on a d-series, you will be in for a grand easily. as it will require a turbo unit and tune.

Chipping your P28 with a Y8 base map will be close to 100 bucks after shipping if you do the work yourself. The costs just go up from there.

Also note, all the responses you received so far have been helpful, but from your perspective it can be difficult to see that.

Your first stop after the FAQ sticky is xenocron.com

It gets complicated fast and will take some time to learn. Remember, most of these guys have been doing this stuff for years and it wasn't all learned over night. Instead it's been learned one lesson after another, it's all part of each of our journeys.

Best of luck.

 

You gotta read first before posting questions, something the new generation refuses to do. Plenty of reading material out there and here. Read first than ask questions. Asking "what to upgrade first" doesn't help you in anyway, just vague and doesn't US a clue on why you need to do it.

 

If you plan on building your car and you're serious about building for autocross, SCCA and NASA have a rule book on what and what you can't modify. That is a good start.

 

If he WAS serious about auto X, he would've done that and knew what he was getting into. I have a feeling when he meant to track his car he wanted to track it on the highway.

 

Maybe he's just autoxing because he doesn't want to street race illegally? It can be a cheap way to get on a road course, it's the only reason i'm gonna sign up.

 

autox is fun, but its like comparing an over the pants hand jibber to the real thing. road courses will make your lady parts tingle. OP- take your $300, replace things like ball joints, bushings, and brakes. then, save up another 300-400 and spend it on decent tires, and give autox a shot. a cam or any other crap is a waste in the motor you have.

 

Thanks! Yikes so im guessing i wont reach my goal because i dont want to put money into a Dseries but i think ill get the chipped ecu so i can saw a B series later.

I know it takes time and learning is alot. Ive been reading the FAQs because it intetest me but theres alot ive gotta go through.

 

Thanks ive already started on those things ive got ball joints, brakes and some othet bushings to go.