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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 07:55 PM
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OT guys the engine is a d16z6 the car was my stepdad car for over 3 years and no event a month ago he did the timing belt and i get and drive fine no problem but the u get on feel like is pulling a boat or something like that take time in pick up the rpm passing 4k and up and have a fuel cut a 6500 rpm and the p28 fuel cut is a 7200 rpm if i am not run and the ecu is good i test in my friend eg and the fuel cut is 7200 rpm and i wen to check the timing but is missing the top cover where have the 3 lines to line up the cam pulley is any other way i can check the timing thanks guys
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 08:04 PM
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Are you able to set the ignition timing to spec using a timing gun?
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Old Dec 25, 2015 | 08:12 PM
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i dont try that yet i would do that tomorrow because i line the cam pulley where the say up i put looking up and the crank pulley is line up where go but is not reving up to 7200 rpm u think if is off in the distributor a little bit would make do that
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 07:49 AM
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no one guys
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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Timing gun results?
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Old Dec 26, 2015 | 03:05 PM
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Your step father replaced the timing belt, and didn't properly time the car. It's that simple.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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is the CAM and CRANK PULLEY set on TOP DEAD CENTER? if not, do so.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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yes they are and i check with the light and i can get the white line to line up is really close i never have so many problem putting a car on timing
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:24 PM
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Using a timing light, the pointer should align with the red mark.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 11:07 AM
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Hey guys I been really busy the last days and have no time to work in the car I take some pics of the timing lines and if I am not wrong the car is out of timing and the first piston was on the top I use the oil stick to make sure



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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Crank looks off by a tooth from that angle.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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So I have to use the line that is by her self or the 1 in the middle
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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It looks dead on to me. What makes you say that, NAR?
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryd2TheMax
It looks dead on to me. What makes you say that, NAR?
I agree. However, both elements of the pointer are not aligned with the lone white mark in the picture, so there's also some degree of doubt.
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 04:14 PM
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So you think the pointer in both of the pulley are off @ronj I am going to do a video with the timing light when I can I be really busy during the week thanks for the help guys I would keep you post about what I do if I have time off during the week
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ
I agree. However, both elements of the pointer are not aligned with the lone white mark in the picture, so there's also some degree of doubt.
I think it's just that the picture was taken at an angle. I'm betting that if the picture was taken looking straight down through the marks it would be dead on TDC.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryd2TheMax
I'm betting that if the picture was taken looking straight down through the marks it would be dead on TDC.
Probably
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Originally Posted by Ryd2TheMax
It looks dead on to me. What makes you say that, NAR?
From that angle, it looks like the TDC marker is lined up with the front of the TDC marker on the timing cover, when it needs to be lined up with the middle of it. From experience, I know that that difference is roughly one tooth. It very well might just be the angle, but that's how it looks from here.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NotARaCist
From that angle, it looks like the TDC marker is lined up with the front of the TDC marker on the timing cover, when it needs to be lined up with the middle of it. From experience, I know that that difference is roughly one tooth. It very well might just be the angle, but that's how it looks from here.
We'll have to agree to disagree I guess. I looked at it more and longer, but it still looks like it matches right in the very middle to me.
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 12:29 AM
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You can also use the arrow on the oil pump to line up with a mark on the crank sprocket.

You only use the blue marked line on the camshaft pulley, the other ones are for different engines.

Trying to draw crank pulley on computer

|...|...|...............|
....^ this is the line for the timing light

It's hard to tell if the timing is off, I would try messing around with the distributor some more first. just because it's easier than installing a timing belt. It's sorta easy to put the belt on wrong, it's very possible the timing is off ever so slightly.
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 02:36 AM
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The problem is its already button up so OP has to go by the crank and both timing marks on the cover.

OP take a better picture from the top with both timing marks on the cover aligned properly and the crank set on the white TDC mark. Your p/s pump line might be a challenge but you should be able to work around it.
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 07:46 AM
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I would take better pics a soon as I can and post here guys
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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you should re do the timing again, remove the plastic covers and instead of doing the timing with the crank pulley, take it off and do it with the little gear is behind the crank pulley, sometimes the crank pullet has been manipulated so many time is not that much accurate..... my advise as is the best way and works for my to correct timing issues.... (BTW I'm new around here but not on the topic, overseas user )
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