I did a quick search and wasn't able to find anyone doing this conversion without the "S word" (spacers) involved, so I thought I'd seek out the experts as I am a noob when it comes to suspension knuckles and hub assemblies.

Basically, I made a huge mistake and bought wheels I love that are discontinued, from a Craigslist ad. Went as far as to mount up new tires on them. Then during install, they informed me I'd bought 4x114 instead of 4x100.

My '94 Civic EX sedan sits very low on Eibach's so I've been told I need to swap out the hub, knuckle, brakes to get the 17" wheels to fit as the current 17" set do. It has front and rear discs, with ABS. That being said, I'm now at a loss.

So, 1) what parts would be easiest to source, and what are the steps to proceed with moving forward on this conversion, 2) Is it reversible? I like the current wheels so putting it back to the way it was would be ideal after a time and 3) if brake rotors are replaced, are new calipers/pads needed?

Those are just some introductory questions. I have been told by many to return the wheels (which isn't possible, no returns accepted), but in truth I like them a lot and since they're discontinued i've been unable to source the right size thus far. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated, I'm sure it's going to cost me a pretty penny but I'll have this car for life, so it's an investment and learning experience none-the-less.

 

Pics of your wheels?

Also you can do a conversion off of an early Type R which had the 4x114 hubs.

THe only issue is sourcing the right brake pads and rotors, it isn't as sought after as the 5 lug which uses USDM type R parts.

You will have to research which pads and rotors will work. Other than that, it's a bolt on conversion, simple removal of the stock front steering knuckles and rear trailing arms, and bolting the 4x114 knuckles and arms in.

Don't forget to get an alignment afterwards.

 

Image from the internets. I know they're not 99% of forum members style/taste, and I've heard a lot of hateful comments, but heh ... I like them.

So, I can use the same brake calipers? The new Type R pads and rotors will allow the Civic calipers?

Thanks for the help so far, much appreciated!

 

No. Do more research.

4x114 conversion is off of a jdm 1997 Integra Type R. Like I said earlier, the pads and rotors aren't something you can go to the store and replace. You have to figure this part out, as I have no experience with this conversion. I'd just prefer to go 5 lug at that point, because you can get 'off the shelf' parts.

 

lol damn, I haven't heard or seen Niche rims in a loooooong time. I was in love with the Niche Bella rims first time I seen them in 01. Bakersfield street scene was huge back then

 

I remember reading regular integra front and rear pads work on the 4x114 conversion. Rotors, not sure if prelude items work, its been a while when I was reading about the 4x114 conversion out of curiosity and decided it wasn't worth it even if the wheels I saw for sale I liked were rare.

Unsure about items like wheel bearings however

 

Thanks everyone for your advice and ideas. It sounds like it's going to be more a matter of sourcing parts than impossibilities. I think finding someone who can provide an exact list of items I need to find would be my best bet to get this project started. I merely don't have any clue as to what specific parts I will need to source, purchase and have installed.

 

Everything you need is right here:

Whats New At hmotorsonline.com®

 

Is this legit?? All of those parts for $299?? It seems too good to be true.

Also, are all of these parts able to be installed as-is, on a 1994 Civic EX sedan (w/ ABS)? If anyone can verify this is all plug & play, I'd really appreciate it!

 

Yes, it's legit.

If Hmotors has a set with uncut brake hoses then you're good. If not, and your car came with read disc brakes, you will need at least the rear brake hoses from a version of your chassis that came with rear disc brakes. in the case of a 1994 Civic EX sedan - you can order all the appropriate brake hoses from any 1994-2001 Integra (excluding the Type R).

 

Thanks so much! So these are not new parts, they're off a salvage or from a used parts distributor? I'm not overly concerned, but more concerned about returns IF for some reason they don't fit on my car. -- From what you're saying though, it doesn't seem like they wouldn't fit. I'm just not an expert by any means.

 

Yes HMotors is legit and you'll be fine if you go with them. It is best to buy the whole front knuckle/ trailing arm assembly as a whole, as they will come with the rotors, calipers, and usually brake hoses. I did the same conversion on my 96 civic using the early ITR knuckles and trailing arms. It is a fairly simple installation assuming you know how to remove ball joints and torque bolts to spec.

Couple things you should know:

I have read that certain Prelude rotors are suitable replacements should you need them

Also, you may find trouble with the E-Brake cable being too short. I had to not use any of the cable mounts under the car to give me some more slack. Your "eg" may be shorter than my "ek" so you may not have this problem, but in case you do just know it will be a less-than-oem install.

For the record, the e-brake does function perfectly fine without the cable brackets being utilized.

 

Many thanks TracerAcer, I've learned a LOT from this thread post and am going to take the above mentioned Brake Conversion Kit and wrap it into a full air suspension by AccuAir, which should completely change how the car looks and feels. -- I wouldn't have been able to think it possible, as most I've asked told me to forget it and not bother ... return the wheels, etc.

I'll be sure and post an update when the work is done and hopefully have some great videos of the new air suspension system as well.

 

Hi there Phunhaus, I wrote to HMotors Online and haven't heard back about the part you mentioned. Do they still exist, or is it perhaps the email on their website is no longer active? Just trying to get info' from them and wondered if you had a personal connection I could reach out to regarding the DC2 Type R 4x114 Brake Conversion. Thanks in advance man.

 

It would be best to contact them by phone. Email, it may take a bit for them to get back to you.

 

Ahh, ok thanks Caoboy, much apprecaited.

 

Steve is a great businessman but bad at emailing. As stated, call them.

 

If you get the 96 97 itr hubs front pads are the same as ls gsr hub. The the rotors prelude vtec rotors

 

Been rockin this set up on my 96 hatch, worked without a hitch, but I def had to get new suspension bushings and an alignment afterwards. Watch out for swaps with busted/stripped out wheel studs there a bitch to replace.I also too just purchased the whole spindle,rotor,breaks etc.. bolted right w/o issue besides the ones I mentioned. I really did it for the 97 spec itr wheels ,also 4x114 has some better options then the 4x100 rim wise. Plus I work at a JDM import shop so I got a good deal.The market value isnt as high as the ctr/itr spec 5 lug.