Other than the body ina dn out, how do they drive different? Like cant I take turns sharp as hell in an rsx like I could on my da lol? it drove like it was on rails and stuck to the road with no problems even in blizzards! Im looking an an 06 type S because some old lady hit my da last saturday

 

Exactly. Nothing that a good trip to Wikipedia can't solve under "Integra".

OP can handle this.. it should be locked now..

 

I typed some of it fast and terribly, and google doesnt tell me how well the car handles compared to an integra, I mainly find one sided opinions from people who have only owned one or the other and are biased. Im talking to people who have owned both

 

Then don't type "fast & horribly".


Honda Integra

Honda Integra , All generations

 

What you're asking for is next to impossible. You must test drive to know how YOU feel specifically about the differences in which is "better" for you. The cars are very different in weight, suspension type, suspension travel, tire width, visibility, etc.

You're not going to get any objective overall impressions here, unfortunately.
You need to find out for yourself by test driving one at a used car lot or someone perhaps local you know. IF you don't know anyone or no where near a used car dealer that has one, time to start traveling to see if its worth it.

There are too many people with modifications that change the standard behaviour of the two cars to even remember stock vs. stock.

Good luck.

 

I said terribly and that was a good vid

 

Stock Type S handles like ***, feels like its on stilts. (no double wishbone set up)

 

A stock type S handles about 600,000,000 times better than a stock DA. There are plenty of fast cars that don't have wishbones.

EVO's, Lotus Exiges, BMW M3's....etc etc etc.

OP's question is awful. Why not go test drive a RSX?

 

Yeah, but they didn't f*ck up like Honda did with that suspension on the RSX. In fact, BMW mastered the MacPherson system since the E30 chassis.

TSX was the last Double wishbone suspension system used by Honda, when they started to aspire to be the next Toyota Motor Company.

My TSX will be my last Honda bought after over 20+ years of loyalty... I'm done.

 

Lol. The RSX and EP3 suspension designs were flawed, sure. But the cars both still handled well. They're good chassis'

Plus...they fixed the design by the next generation. The 8th gen Si chassis is pretty effing good....with none of the DC5/EP3 weirdness. The FD2 CTR version of the 8th gen chassis is crazy fast.

I have a 1G and 2G TSX and love them both. TSX's are excellent cars.

But you're right...I can't think of any brand new Honda/Acura that I'd buy. I like the TLX. I don't even mind the struts up front as much....but....no manual transmission?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

No they are not. They are garbage. When pushed to the limits they just get worse and worse.

They didnt "fix" anything,they completely changed the chassis and suspension set up. Went back to double wishbones.

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Yup, and neither one has the RSX/EP3 suspension set ups.

 

8th gen Si's and CTR's don't have wishbones....they're McPherson strut fronts. Still a McPherson front civic. Hence my reference to an improved design. Think of it as an improvement in the same way as the EG was an improvement on the EF chassis. I know the chassis is different. But the concept is the same....but improved.

EP3's and DC5's are still better designs than their contemporary competitors. Golfs, for example. Or SRT-4's.

 

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with DC5. But older DC2 was favored only in being lighter but not better handling. So take this in mind. The DC5 kept up with the DC2 but was heavier? By physics the DC2 if it has better suspension/same tires/lighter... shouldn't it just leave the DC5 altogether?

I don't really have any issue getting my DC5 to rotate. I think the DC5 has an improved and more rigid chassis over the previous models. Although the DC2 had a superior wishbone setup in both front and rear. While DC5 uses MacPherson in the front and a double wishbone semi trailing arm in the rear. I think most of the flaws where basically things that can be fixed or improved. The biggest flaw was the DC5 didn't respond well to being lowered. And suspension geometry with the Macpherson up front was limited. And suspension travel in the rear. (All things that can be fixed tho')

I think unless you are looking at lap times. DC2 or older Honda's might feel faster because the RSX has a body roll type feel to it(heavier with no LSD). But for the most part my DC5 grips pretty damn well. Tires make a big difference too.

Flawed design or not. The DC5 did make some good achievements in the racing world.

 

 

"Ok.. I'll counter that one.


MUAHAHAHAA... Stupid DC5s. I could never get them to rotate the same way as a competent DC2 for years.

You Tube

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I think that Spoon DC2 was just on another level from the rest of the competition. And Tsuchiya was blocking the K-one and the K-one fell behind because he wasn't able to use the curb. I guess the suspension might of been too stiff? But the K-one was handling better than the DC5 and the DC2 infront of it. Look at the lap times even though Tsuchiya was blocking him. When watching Best Motoring when they race on the track together. I don't use it as a benchmark. I just use it as a indication that those cars can compete with each other.


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That's subjective. But it does seem to roll easier than the "piggish" DC5. But I'm not alone in this as even the Realtime Racing guys tried it one year, then went to the TSX and never looked back."

Yes they liked the TSX double wishbone suspension. It responds better to being lowered and modifications. Without having to reverse engineer the tie rods and etc like other racing companies did with their DC5's. But Chris Neal's HybridRacing team had major success with the Type R model. I would like to know what RealTime racing did to their DC5. Since the RSX Type S models would clearly need more improvement to competitive like their Type R counterparts.

 

 

If you're using the RSX chassis to compete within a certain class...then...yeah, maybe they're not typically competive because of how much you would need to mod in order to remedy their shortcomings.

The 05-06 RSX is lucky it has its looks. If the 8th gen Si didn't look like a lawn gnome, I think the price of RSX's would have plummeted. Not too many people use their cars to race...or even go to the track.

The Si is a better street car as well. And it has a LSD. And a better chassis. And its more mod friendly. And you can buy it with nav and a real stereo. And it came in a 4dr configuration. And it was cheaper (new) than the RSX.

Looks go a long way for enthusiast car buyers.

 

Stop. Youre killing me.......





*Still loves my DC5 ,tho*

 

Haha the truth hurts! Its alright. IMO, the Si is better on paper than it is to drive. Its a good chassis, but the driving experience is "meh". I owned one for a while at the same time as a 1G TSX. TSX is the better every day car, hands down.

I think the RSX is nicer to DRIVE around than the Si. Plus it has a hatchback....which means infinite cargo room. The 05 RSX had some nice tweaks. The Z1, ITR LCA's, and the updated look.

I'd still rather have a TSX. Not just because of the double wishbones. But because of the way the TSX drives, looks, and feels in comparison to a Si or RSX. Obviously, my 1G TSX is a 6 speed (tech), or I wouldn't own it.

My GF has a 2G. Its automatic. Which is stupid. BUT...its a wagon in white...with tech. Which supercedes everything. Even if it had struts...it'd still be the dopest **** on the planet.

Again, these are DD's. Not "weekend" cars.

 

you would rather buy a $10k 3000lb car rather than just fix what already have?

 

cant fix it, Im working 7 days a week 11hrs a day and have my nova to finish as well when I have time, from what her insurance said it will most likely be totaled sadly. And yea 10k is fine for an 06 I test drove the other day haha the 2016 STI is nice but I didnt feel like paying 36k on a car yet so I didnt order it(dont have 3 months to wait on a car either)

 

If I had to buy only one (affordable/realistic) car...I'd test drive:
-BMW M3 (buy a warranty)
-S2000
-Miata

If I lived somewhere where the weather wasn't stupid 90% of the year, I'd probably own a S2000 CR or NSX as an only car.

 

They're 2700-2800LB. Making them ~200-300 lbs heavier than a DA.

 

keep looking into it, buy whatever that will make you happier

 

You're right.
DC5 pretty much has to be a car you just like. Because it's definitely far from the best nowadays. I have always had love for DC5 though. Don't know what it is about the car. Just always wanted one.