Hey guys, I'm just about done building my b20v and I just wanted some opinions on the #'s I'll be making on the dyno and/or
any suggestions you guys have. The car will truly be a daily driver & I will be pushing the motor. The tune will be on point, no worries about that

GSR head, dual retainers & springs/ full valve job, acid bath, sand blast, shave, etc..
skunk2 manifold
70mm Throttlebody
ARP studs
skunk2 stage 2 tuner cams
Tri y headers
B20B block (84.5mm)
RS machined type r pistons (high 11s compression)
Eagle rods
2.5' exhaust
Tuned on s300 pump 93 gas

Does anybody know if I would make around 220?
I'll be really disappointed if I make 200

 

Sure why not

 

Depends on the dyno. Go to churches and make 250

Track numbers should be the main concern

 

i seriously laughed out loud!

and who cares what it makes as long as it rips and its reliable. im sure it would make 200. you have a pretty standard parts list that will get the job done. if you want to save some cash you can use stock rods with the arp bolts.

 

I care because the amount of money I spent, I better be getting some good numbers you know? Everything for the most part is brand new. This **** is gonna have 0 miles. Freshly honed & all that. Thanks for the response

 

Yeah theres no way I'd get 250.. But around the 215-220 range would be nice

 

You think 215 is a more solid number to look forward too?

 

I don't care how much power the car next to me says he has. He has to beat me. MANY times I've raced a guy who made "230+ bro" and I was around 200...and won. Dyno numbers are exactly that, numbers. A tuner uses those numbers to tune and figure out what makes your car faster. Do you wanna dyno queen or to win races? I love beating dyno queens

 

I totally understand where you're coming from and I'm not going to tell a single person the numbers I make but its nice to know. So when I walk cars and they think they're making a lot of power, I know that my **** beat them you know? Lol

 

I have no idea, I'm just bored. My only suggestion would be that since you have a nice build plan, add headwork if you can afford it.

Good luck with your build and post up the results when able.

 

I gotta agree. Sometimes the numbers don't equate to the performance expected. Alot of times numbers are just numbers and too many times people get blinded by them. I was once one of those people.

 

Well imo its cause it all comes down to the tuner period!! like we all agree the dyno peak power dont mean nothing unless the engine is tuned to its fullest potential it was ttuned for! with this being said in my experience some tuners focus there tune on full throttle tuning wherre as some are more conservastive and focus more on part throttle and daily drivability compared to tuner X who will focus on high rpm and wot tuning.

To sum up my opinion You can have a tuner tune your car, and depending on his or her experience they will tune it to there prefrence if you havent established the main point of focus/ purpose of the vehicle. With that being said say nothing and ask the tuner to tune this X engine and they will tune it to there "style" what does this mean, well for example i built a very simple B series engine and had Church automotive tune the engine for a daily driver then i had another tuner tune the engine who was a well known local drag car honda tuner tune the car for a "daily driver"..

The engine felt completley diffrent! I had church tune the engine on Hondata and i had local X tunner use AEM V2 i purchased.

Long story short besides the diffrnece in HP the engine fealt completly diffrent. The tune by churches was extremely smooth as far as idle part throtle, and WOT. On decel the engine held a 800 rpm and never fell on its face and died and over all drove very smooth and power delivery/ power band was very smooth and had a nice seemless vtec cross over.

Pull the Hondata EMS and Plug in the AEM V2 EMS tuned by well known local dyno tuner.

His tune felt completley diffrent but much faster indeed in regards to drivabilitly. I did not like driving the car at all though, for i the mostly daily drive the car for now. It was almost like a straight drag car on how it performed. Throttle responce was very instant with a rich tune and felt like it wanted to be in vtec all the time. At more than a 1/4 throttle it just pulled into vtec and was just begging to be revved to 9K and kept there! was a very resposive feel the engine had. Decell the engine almost always died and was not imo at all tuned for part throtle for use as a daily driver. The engine felt much much faster even though the engine was tuned on a mustang dyno showing lower numbers but i can tell this thing was begging to be raced and again i diddnt like the tune as it wasnt ideal for my daily driver.

Again its all on the tuner/tune. Im sure once i have my engine retuned with its new mods it will make X amount of HP for a daily driver, and when i have them retune it for track dutty im sure the engine will be much more responsive and feel diffrent in how it performs.

With that engine comp, cams and header and fuel you should deff hit 220 HP+ as far as peak power, I made 216 HP on a stock block 1.8l gsr on 91 on a mild setup using a SK2 pro series manifold and ebay Try Y header with BC spec 3+ cams.

 

I likke the point you made, thanks. Look him up on instagram & you tell me "Derf.Tuned"

 

a friend of mine just came off the dyno with the exact same setup and made 205 on pump gas if you want to get a lil more out of it i would go with a 3in exhaust i had about the same setup except for 12.5.1 pistons and on e85 i made 238 with cams degreed gl man