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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 04:22 PM
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working on my sons Honda civic hatchback. It wont start. It has spark at the plugs. The fuel pump won't prime and has no power at the harness connecting to the pump. Took the pump out and put 12 volts directly to the pump and it works. Checked the relay based on information I found on the internet and it seems to have continuity where it should when 12 volts are applied to the different posts of the relay. What next?
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 04:36 PM
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When you turn the key to ON(II), does the CEL come on for 2-3 seconds, then turn off?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:24 AM
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When you turn the key to ON(II), does the CEL come on for 2-3 seconds, then turn off?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:31 AM
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Key off.

Unplug ECU connector A.

Ground pin A7 or A8 in the connector.

Turn key to ON(II) and listen for whether the pump primes.

Repeat ground test multiple times to check whether the pump primes with A/7/A8 grounded.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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There are 3 plugs to the ecu. which one is connector A and which connectors are A7 and A8? when you say repeat test a number of times do you mean turn the key on and off repeatedly to see if the fuel pump begins to prime?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:48 PM
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when you say repeat test a number of times do you mean turn the key on and off repeatedly to see if the fuel pump begins to prime?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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ok Thanks a lot Ron I will check it tomorrow and get back to you.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 09:27 AM
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ok so I jumped the a7 and a8 with a wire and did what you said and the pump did not prime. now what
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Key off.

Unplug ECU connector A.

Ground pin A7 or A8 in the connector.

Turn key to ON(II) and listen for whether the pump primes.

Repeat ground test multiple times to check whether the pump primes with A/7/A8 grounded.
How do you ground the pin?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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ok so I jumped the a7 and a8 with a wire and did what you said and the pump did not prime. now what
How did you do it? Just put a small wire between a7 and a8?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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yes sir
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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on the wire harness itself (inside connector a)
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 11:42 AM
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on the wire harness itself (inside connector a)
Yup. It didn't do anything. I'm rewiring the ground to the thermostat housing as of right now. But I got nothing.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 11:51 AM
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How did you do it? Just put a small wire between a7 and a8?
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No!

Use a piece of wire to ground A7 or A8 (wire harness connector) to the metal frame under the dash. Try both A7 and A8 in the test.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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Do a7 and a8 separately to chassis ground?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 01:11 PM
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Ok I did it and nothing happened
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 01:40 PM
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Do you live in the U.S.? If so, check fuses 24 and 31.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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I live in the us are they under the dash or under the hood this doesn't have a fuse diagram
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:15 PM
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See FAQs sticky.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:21 PM
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I pulled both fuses and inspected them they look good and I check both with a continuity light and they both checked ok
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:23 PM
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Use your multimeter to test whether voltage from fuses 31 and 24 reaches the main relay connector.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:25 PM
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Ron sorry for my ignorance but how would I do that
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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And should that voltage be checked with the key on and should that be 12 volts?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:29 PM
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Unplug main relay.

Turn key to ON(II).

Two of the eight pins in the connector should read battery voltage to body ground.

Post the voltage readings and the two pins and wire colors that show battery voltage.
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jammer48
The fuel pump won't prime and has no power at the harness connecting to the pump. Took the pump out and put 12 volts directly to the pump and it works.
If with the key in ON(II) you do the 5-7 pin jump test shown in the diagram below, does the fuel pump run?


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