Acura Integra Type-R All Integra Type R Discussions

Drop in camshaft upgrade

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 22, 2015 | 04:31 PM
  #1  
mr_munro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 727
Likes: 2
From: Australia
Default Drop in camshaft upgrade

Looking for some cams for my Australian 2001 dc2r (11:1 stock compression).
It's a daily with no track work, just looking for power upgrades and would like it driveable until I get it tuned. Currently have header and full exhaust system, will eventually get hondata s300.

Can I please get some suggestions on aftermarket camshafts and any other required valve train upgrades.

On the other hand, I've heard the 2001 itr cams are quite decent and unless I upgrade to cams that are race spec, it is not worth it?
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2015 | 06:32 PM
  #2  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Drop in camshaft upgrade

Well. The Skunk2 Tuner 1, the Buddy Club Spec III, are both drop-in upgrades to the 2001 Type R camshaft that work great. One last alternative is the Edlebrock 4730, but those are getting more rare. You want to make sure that you have the software/hardware ready for tuning just before installation. Don't just drop them in, drive around, and expect any immediate improvements without getting ready for the tuner soon.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2015 | 07:56 PM
  #3  
mr_munro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 727
Likes: 2
From: Australia
Default Re: Drop in camshaft upgrade

Originally Posted by TheShodan
Well. The Skunk2 Tuner 1, the Buddy Club Spec III, are both drop-in upgrades to the 2001 Type R camshaft that work great. One last alternative is the Edlebrock 4730, but those are getting more rare. You want to make sure that you have the software/hardware ready for tuning just before installation. Don't just drop them in, drive around, and expect any immediate improvements without getting ready for the tuner soon.
Thanks mate. I realise without tuning the power won't be there, just more concerned it is safe to drive around until the tune. Do the buddy club and skunk you listed above require upgraded valve springs, retainers and cam gears?
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2015 | 08:01 PM
  #4  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Drop in camshaft upgrade

Originally Posted by mr_munro
Thanks mate. I realise without tuning the power won't be there, just more concerned it is safe to drive around until the tune. Do the buddy club and skunk you listed above require upgraded valve springs, retainers and cam gears?
You wanted the choices for "drop in".. That's what I gave ya.. So, that meant no changes in valvetrain.

But valvetrain changes are best for more power.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2015 | 08:09 PM
  #5  
boarderfatty's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: St. Albert, AB, Canada
Default Re: Drop in camshaft upgrade

BC3's for the win, if not Toda B's or Jun spec C's (IIRC)... even spoon cams if you can find them.

You will have to valve springs to be safe.

I know tons of people use SK2, but having ran engines on both the JDM cams mentioned above and the SK2's, I would never consider SK2 again for the nature of their power curve or finnicky nature when tuning. (All a matter of opinion)

If I had to chose one, Toda Spec B.

No mods are good on B18C5 without a tune, tune makes all the difference.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2015 | 08:23 PM
  #6  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: Drop in camshaft upgrade

Originally Posted by boarderfatty
BC3's for the win, if not Toda B's or Jun spec C's (IIRC)... even spoon cams if you can find them.

You will have to valve springs to be safe.

I know tons of people use SK2, but having ran engines on both the JDM cams mentioned above and the SK2's, I would never consider SK2 again for the nature of their power curve or finnicky nature when tuning. (All a matter of opinion)

If I had to chose one, Toda Spec B.

No mods are good on B18C5 without a tune, tune makes all the difference.
I own both Toda Spec Bs and Spec Cs. You can't just drop those in without at least 12.0:1 compression by way of the pistons (can't cheat your way) to do it.

I just sold my other Spec Bs. Please stay with the Buddy Club or Skunk2 Tuner 1 camshafts. I understand about how some are skiddish about the BIG CAMSHAFT stuff from Skunk2, but for a Tuner 1, its more than reliable, capable and fine. I speak from personal experience with them for over 10 years.
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2015 | 09:14 PM
  #7  
white rocket's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,195
Likes: 0
From: vancity
Default Re: Drop in camshaft upgrade

S2 tuner 1's, BCIII's or Toda A's would be the ones to look at, as mentioned. I'll throw Blox A in the ring as well. Spoon bumpsticks would be amaze-***** but they're rare and pricey. All of these do not require any changes to the valvetrain. Some will choose to upgrade that area to rev higher and remain safe but they are designed to work with the OEM parts.

A "stage 2" cam, if you will, would be the route I would go and add valvetrain, valves, maybe even headwork, to see larger gains yet maintain daily driveability. Toda B's, Jun III's, S2 tuner 2's, etc are common. Blox B's as well. These also work well if you decide to build the block to strengthen and raise compression. You even have the "extra" 0.5 c/r over the USDM B18C5 so that's a plus already.

Personally, I wouldn't consider a cam upgrade as a one-off mod; like a header, or intake. Typically, supporting mods are combined to get the most out of the cams. ie: valvetrain, valves, headwork, cam gears, then a tune of course. Although a drop-in cam will work just fine with a quick tune I think there is more gradification doing the head as a package.

The S2 Pro series cams are pretty aggressive so I'd leave those out. Not something you want to jump into without high compression.
I run Pro2's with about 12:1 c/r and it's got muscle car lump. Even with the stock stroke.

Keep us posted
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
richiejr416
Honda Civic (2006 - 2015)
2
Oct 16, 2014 03:19 PM
CA121
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
12
Aug 1, 2011 05:25 PM
---SPEED-DEMON---
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
1
Jan 17, 2009 10:36 PM
Project_EK
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
10
Feb 25, 2007 12:21 PM
LBDM EK97
Tech / Misc
1
Sep 19, 2005 11:18 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:32 PM.