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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 08:49 AM
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Hola H-T,

I'm currently planning a 1000+ horsepower GSR build. This will be my first time doing anything of the such, I figured I'd get it started on here so when I need help I'll have it available.

After blowing a rod through my block, my goal is to make this thing essentially indestructible. (Currently swapping motors from my 98 to my 2000 at the moment.) So what I would like to start with is a Dart block and sleeve it with Darton MID's.

I have a couple questions before I continue to plan the build. Aiming for this much HP I'm unsure whether I should aim for low compression or high compression expecting to use at the very least 35+ lb's of boost... but with a build block like that I'd be able to rock the high compression for more power, right?

Also, I've been told I will need to build the transmission, that beefier axles won't be enough.. I don't feel like getting into all of that so my plan is to pay somebody to do that, what exactly would need done with this?

Well, windows updates insists on restarting my computer, I'll be back.

- Ben
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 08:50 AM
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Also, my apologizes for not posting an introductory post, I thought I had did that back in '14 -- apparently I did not. o:
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 10:53 AM
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Why? All i got to say.
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ben.s
Hola H-T,

I'm currently planning a 1000+ horsepower GSR build. This will be my first time doing anything of the such, I figured I'd get it started on here so when I need help I'll have it available.

After blowing a rod through my block, my goal is to make this thing essentially indestructible. (Currently swapping motors from my 98 to my 2000 at the moment.) So what I would like to start with is a Dart block and sleeve it with Darton MID's.

I have a couple questions before I continue to plan the build. Aiming for this much HP I'm unsure whether I should aim for low compression or high compression expecting to use at the very least 35+ lb's of boost... but with a build block like that I'd be able to rock the high compression for more power, right?

Also, I've been told I will need to build the transmission, that beefier axles won't be enough.. I don't feel like getting into all of that so my plan is to pay somebody to do that, what exactly would need done with this?

Well, windows updates insists on restarting my computer, I'll be back.

- Ben
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 01:45 PM
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I hope you have a trailer and truck to take it places, have you even looked at any of the cars posted on sheepeys IG i'll bet you haven't cause any 1000hp b series or even k has no street ability. Also if you're "asking" this I can already tell you'll be paying someone to build the whole thing for you. I doubt you have the funds to do it and are trolling, what fuel are you going to run since there's no way pump gas(including pump e85) will support that. Quit trolling and go play with your old integra's... b series are dying and the fact you didn't read anything shows what a clown you are, had you read you would have known how much is involved both money and fabrication to accommodate something like that.
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 03:17 PM
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You guys instantly condemn me like I'm a spawn of Satan or some shiz. "HAVE YOU EVEN [insert garbage here]".

It's possible. You can dual fuel pumps and e85, and money isn't an issue.

I have another buddy who is building one as well.

I came here looking for help and direction, but the first impression you guys just gave me of H-T makes me never want to come back. This build is for a track toy, not my street DD.

I've seen an 800hp d-series... anything is possible.

- Ben
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 04:27 PM
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if money isn't an issue why would you waste it on a old out dated "B" if youre buddy is so smart he would have told you a k series will out perform a b 10x over. So go to your local engine builder that deals with Hondas and discuss this, if money isn't an issue go and build it why would you even come on here "mr baller". If you're trying to brag don't.. hope you have at least an F150 and a good trailer. A roll cage is a must and if you looked online prayoonto offers a complete "out of the box 1000whp engine. It's $10,000 go look at there site then you have to deal with fuel q16 or similar here's a complete list http://www.prayoontoracing.com/onlin...-block-v2.html. that 10k is just the engine NOT the turbo/manifolds and all the other custom stuff needed hood exit new -AN feed/return lines
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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I believe his goal was to make a b18c1 to crank out 1k hp, lets see how this goes.

So far no build plan and no parts list........
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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Ok so 10-15% drivetrain loss.... he said "plus" as you can see in the title, regardless attempting to go over 950whp on a b or K isn't something you start a topic on here knowing nothing. If his friend was really building one he could have a platform at least, lol at the "dual pump" idea

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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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I wouldn't say that the B series is dying, but the K has definitely replaced it as the engine of choice in serious all motor builds and insane boosted setups.

Plenty of hacks (myself included) who want 300WHP are still picking B-series engines though.

As for the OP, this is a serious case of, "if you have to ask you probably shouldn't try."
Old Aug 27, 2015 | 09:43 PM
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Go to forced induction and read the FAQ search and research your answer. Start with your goal with the car not HP, then start with a chassis, then build the engine and go from there. You can prolly reach your target goal with half the HP. You want braging rights that you got a 1k +HP integra you got the wrong idea. Look up the integra chassis that have used the B series like sheepeys integra that have been successfully competitive with the B series.

http://sheepeybuilt.com/pages/2000-acura-integra-sfwd
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For something like 400ish wheel it would be retarded to put a k series in for the sole purpose of power FI wise. All motor no one will ever argue you there anything over 250whp is dominated by k series, you can look up how amazing those motors are. But for something like this it's stupid to ask, if any of you have seen that k20 MR2 on 1320 it made 880whp in the civic it made 960whp . Unless you do only roll racing a dog-box is a must for the K and upwards of 5K minimum, heck even miles aka Gringotegg doesn't need 1000+ to go 190mph.

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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ben.s
You guys instantly condemn me like I'm a spawn of Satan or some shiz. "HAVE YOU EVEN [insert garbage here]".

It's possible. You can dual fuel pumps and e85, and money isn't an issue.

I have another buddy who is building one as well.

I came here looking for help and direction, but the first impression you guys just gave me of H-T makes me never want to come back. This build is for a track toy, not my street DD.

I've seen an 800hp d-series... anything is possible.

- Ben
Dont flatter yourself. No one took the time to think about who or what you were. In all honesty, anyone looking to build a high HP GSR wouldn't be asking for anything in a model specific forum. They'd be telling us about their build and the approach they're taking. A build like you're imagining isn't easy. It takes a large budget and good amount of knowledge to complete. The final result isn't someone's "track toy". Being confused between a high or low compression setup for your build? Looking to push 1000hp and you dont care to go in depth about drivetrain so you'll pay someone to figure that out?

Ok, since you feel some of us are a bit harsh in response to your post, I've got an idea: Re-post your first post in the Engine & Machining, Forced Induction, or Drag Racing forum. Just copy your first post, start a new thread in one of those forums, and re-post. It's easy, you have nothing to lose, and it'll show me how serious you are about this build.
Old Aug 28, 2015 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by B_Swapped93
if money isn't an issue why would you waste it on a old out dated "B" if youre buddy is so smart he would have told you a k series will out perform a b 10x over. So go to your local engine builder that deals with Hondas and discuss this, if money isn't an issue go and build it why would you even come on here "mr baller". If you're trying to brag don't.. hope you have at least an F150 and a good trailer. A roll cage is a must and if you looked online prayoonto offers a complete "out of the box 1000whp engine. It's $10,000 go look at there site then you have to deal with fuel q16 or similar here's a complete list Proven by Champions - PrayoontoRacing.com. that 10k is just the engine NOT the turbo/manifolds and all the other custom stuff needed hood exit new -AN feed/return lines
Not trying to brag about money, I'm not saying this is going to be an overnight task. I have time, I will take as long as needed. It's a goal I want to achieve I'm not saying "ima go drop stax right meow, dogg".

The reason I asked the questions I did, is because the 800 hp D I mentioned previously, has dual fuel pumps and runs e85 with 13.1 compression and over 25lbs of boost. High compression, lower boost, or lower compression ridiculous amounts of boost. I've been looking at the BorgWarner S400SX, 74mm Turbo.

Me personally don't have all the resources, but I have people when I need them. I know it's not going to be easy and 1000HP isnt necessarily my goal, I'd be happy with ~900, give or take some. The motor will be built and assembled in a garage.

A K series isn't the type of work I'm trying to put into an Integra chassis.

I'm tired of being told I can't do ****. This is possible I'm not understanding why I'm getting flamed. If I want to, why not?

- Ben
Old Aug 28, 2015 | 06:15 AM
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Dont flatter yourself. No one took the time to think about who or what you were. In all honesty, anyone looking to build a high HP GSR wouldn't be asking for anything in a model specific forum. They'd be telling us about their build and the approach they're taking. A build like you're imagining isn't easy. It takes a large budget and good amount of knowledge to complete. The final result isn't someone's "track toy". Being confused between a high or low compression setup for your build? Looking to push 1000hp and you dont care to go in depth about drivetrain so you'll pay someone to figure that out?

Ok, since you feel some of us are a bit harsh in response to your post, I've got an idea: Re-post your first post in the Engine & Machining, Forced Induction, or Drag Racing forum. Just copy your first post, start a new thread in one of those forums, and re-post. It's easy, you have nothing to lose, and it'll show me how serious you are about this build.
Before I go parts shopping I need my questions in my first post answered.

However, will repost as requested.
Old Aug 28, 2015 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ben.s
Not trying to brag about money, I'm not saying this is going to be an overnight task. I have time, I will take as long as needed. It's a goal I want to achieve I'm not saying "ima go drop stax right meow, dogg".

The reason I asked the questions I did, is because the 800 hp D I mentioned previously, has dual fuel pumps and runs e85 with 13.1 compression and over 25lbs of boost. High compression, lower boost, or lower compression ridiculous amounts of boost. I've been looking at the BorgWarner S400SX, 74mm Turbo.

Me personally don't have all the resources, but I have people when I need them. I know it's not going to be easy and 1000HP isnt necessarily my goal, I'd be happy with ~900, give or take some. The motor will be built and assembled in a garage.

A K series isn't the type of work I'm trying to put into an Integra chassis.

I'm tired of being told I can't do ****. This is possible I'm not understanding why I'm getting flamed. If I want to, why not?

- Ben

You know its really not that difficult now? I think you need to go away and do some research of your own before asking questions matey
Old Aug 28, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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You know its really not that difficult now? I think you need to go away and do some research of your own before asking questions matey
Based on hearsay.

Like I want to do a b series, why does it matter what I choose?

My original questions still are being ignored, if someone can please assist me and stop the off topic, I'd appreciate it.

Posted in engine/machining, TomCat will be moving the thread to forced induction.
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Originally Posted by ben.s
Hola H-T,

I'm currently planning a 1000+ horsepower GSR build. This will be my first time doing anything of the such, I figured I'd get it started on here so when I need help I'll have it available.

After blowing a rod through my block, my goal is to make this thing essentially indestructible. (Currently swapping motors from my 98 to my 2000 at the moment.) So what I would like to start with is a Dart block and sleeve it with Darton MID's.

I have a couple questions before I continue to plan the build. Aiming for this much HP I'm unsure whether I should aim for low compression or high compression expecting to use at the very least 35+ lb's of boost... but with a build block like that I'd be able to rock the high compression for more power, right?

Also, I've been told I will need to build the transmission, that beefier axles won't be enough.. I don't feel like getting into all of that so my plan is to pay somebody to do that, what exactly would need done with this?

Well, windows updates insists on restarting my computer, I'll be back.

- Ben


Originally Posted by ben.s
Based on hearsay.

Like I want to do a b series, why does it matter what I choose?

My original questions still are being ignored, if someone can please assist me and stop the off topic, I'd appreciate it.

Posted in engine/machining, TomCat will be moving the thread to forced induction.

SMH These days you can make more HP on less PSI on a high compression setup!


Among other things to reinforce Look for a dog box setup and Gator or driveshaft shop axles for your application.

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Old Aug 28, 2015 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
SMH These days you can make more HP on less PSI on a high compression setup!


Among other things to reinforce Look for a dog box setup and Gator or driveshaft shop axles for your application.

Dog Box Transmission - Honda Tuning Magazine

Gator Racing Axles Drag Axles Street Axles
Bookmarked! Thanks for the good info man.
Old Aug 29, 2015 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
SMH These days you can make more HP on less PSI on a high compression setup!


Among other things to reinforce Look for a dog box setup and Gator or driveshaft shop axles for your application.

Dog Box Transmission - Honda Tuning Magazine

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No dog box for me, not a drag car.

ALBINS helical gearset looks really good, and has been installed into applications up to 950HP.
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No dog box for me, not a drag car.

ALBINS helical gearset looks really good, and has been installed into applications up to 950HP.
You want to build a 1,000 HP+ street car then?
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Pretty much, I'd be happy with 900.
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This same thread exists in Forced Induction - there's no need to troll multiple forums for the answers you want to hear.
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