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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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<p>Sorry for the crappy pic, let me know if i need to post another angle, but I'm hoping to get some suggestions on this.</p><p>The way i have my turbo clocked for my oil feed and where it needs to be for my piping on top of my bung being in a weird spot on my moroso pan... it's kind of in a awkward spot. I don't want to have any issues with the oil draining back into the pan.</p>
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:12 PM
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Can we get another angle showing the horizontal difference between the bung and oil return? Kind if hard to tell anything from an off angle shot.

Also I would consider extending your dump tube. It's still short enough where it could coat the bottom of your block and oil pan in nasty carbon **** which loves to stain stuff.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:20 PM
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There's several threads about the problem with that pan's drain.
Install the charge piping and see what you have to work with.
I bet the bung is wrong for more people than whose setup it is correct.
They should move it on future models.
Nice photo..looks pro.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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pics of another angle, and with the piping on. based on the first pic, id say straight down to a forty five degree fitting. those pans also have warp issues at the flange for the gasket. and yea, you should difinitely extend the dumptube
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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have a new bung welded into a more suitable place on the pan.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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I was having exact same problem. I just installed a new bung just above the M and O in Moroso. its a straight shot now.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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dang, thats a good ideal lol
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Oil comes out of that hole when I take out the plug..could be my shitty mounts.
I brought mine around the side and to the rear a little...below the crank pulley...looks ghetto, but above oil level.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 02:59 PM
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The default bung location on the moroso pan works well for people running cast manifolds and log manifolds, and even on top mount setups (tubular or cast) but for manifolds like ramhorns and mini-rams that place the turbo fairly low it just isn't in the best location. I even know of a few people running forward facing manifolds that use the moroso bung.

I'm debating about picking up or borrowing a moroso pan just so I can engineer a return line setup for mini-ram/ramhorn users that uses the standard moroso bung. I know I can use my genius to engineer a solution, it's just can I make a solution that keeps costs reasonable.

Also charge pipe routing plays a fairly large role with the moroso pan. People running backdoor setups on the turbo side (like myself) don't have return line issues like those people running standard side entry piping setups. I've found that most "standard" side entry piping kits run the piping damn near level with the oil pan gasket and fairly close to the pan which makes running return lines difficult regardless of bung location. Some have even had to kick the piping out off of the compressor housing to have enough room.

Part of me wishes there was a fitting on the block to use as a drain like most factory turbo motors have, especially the SR20, no BS with oil pan fittings or clearance. Just thread an AN fitting adapter in and you're done. I might do something like this on my accord build to test the idea, especially since the car is so low I'll likely go through a fair number of oil pans and having to purchase and weld a bung on each one would get tiresome and time consuming. B series build will hopefully be dry sump so I don't have to go through this BS, especially since I'm running a mini-ram and we all know how annoying those return lines can be.

OP, take a shot straight on with your charge piping on and I might be able to come up with a way to use the bung already on the pan. If not then having a bung welded between the M and O like suggested above is going to be your best option.
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<p>That's what my buddy was recommending was to put another bung on there, i just wanted to try and avoid taking the pan off again, plus i know there are baffles in there.. I didn't know if it could be moved over.. I really prefer NOT to do it, but if i HAVE too.</p><p>Here's a couple more pics:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>
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Even though some will say no, if there's room between the pan and your charge piping you could run a 90 off the pan and a straight fitting off of the turbo and be fine.
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From the picture it looks like there is plenty of clearance for a straight piece at the turbo and a 45° at the pan. OR even a 45° for both if needed. More picture angles would be required.

Also, of course oil comes out of the Moroso location LOL... pull the plug with your engine running next time and see if oil pours out. Ever looked at the dipstick location with the pan off?

Dump tube is extremely short for me too...

Wow, that's a lot of blue RTV. If that's Permatex it's not oil resistant just FYI. You want black or even gray.

EDIT: Uhhhh, what did I hit a time warp or something??? LOL!!! My guess on fittings required still stands.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 04:23 PM
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and remove the teflon tape off the feed fitting
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
Even though some will say no, if there's room between the pan and your charge piping you could run a 90 off the pan and a straight fitting off of the turbo and be fine.
This^^^
I ran mine this way with no drain issues
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75 off the turbo, 90 into the pan. I feel like you're overcomplicating things.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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His feed fitting is an NPT adapter into a restrictor, not an AN fitting, so at that location he stills needs Teflon to seal the threads.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OneBadTurboCRV
From the picture it looks like there is plenty of clearance for a straight piece at the turbo and a 45° at the pan. OR even a 45° for both if needed. More picture angles would be required.

Also, of course oil comes out of the Moroso location LOL... pull the plug with your engine running next time and see if oil pours out. Ever looked at the dipstick location with the pan off?

Dump tube is extremely short for me too...

Wow, that's a lot of blue RTV. If that's Permatex it's not oil resistant just FYI. You want black or even gray.

EDIT: Uhhhh, what did I hit a time warp or something??? LOL!!! My guess on fittings required still stands.
C'mon I'm not stupid.. lol. It's permatex ultra blue and it is oil resistant.. put dab on each stud/nut because I am aware that these moroso pans do like to leak. I haven't had any issues so far *knock on wood*

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and remove the teflon tape off the feed fitting
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His feed fitting is an NPT adapter into a restrictor, not an AN fitting, so at that location he stills needs Teflon to seal the threads.
Thank you sir.

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75 off the turbo, 90 into the pan. I feel like you're over complicating things.
As tight as it looks in there it looks like I will have to use a straight off of the turbo because the housing is in the way.. I can snap a pic if you need it?

Originally Posted by wantboost
Even though some will say no, if there's room between the pan and your charge piping you could run a 90 off the pan and a straight fitting off of the turbo and be fine.
Thanks bro..

Where do you recommend me picking up the straight fitting for off the turbo for cheap? My local hot rod place here is ridiculous with pricing
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Teg
I was having exact same problem. I just installed a new bung just above the M and O in Moroso. its a straight shot now.
I put the pipe on there and there's just no way to make it work.. I really hate to have to pull the pan back off and have a bung welded on, but this is the only option. Exactly how it is in this image.

Huge design flaw in this moroso pan.. IMO
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Take a picture with the piping on.

I'll link you to affordable fittings, just have to find the page again lol. I've found almost all aluminum and steel AN fittings to be of comparable quality regardless of the name. 9/10 times they all sell the exact same fitting, just with varying degrees of overhead markup.

I'm assuming your drain fitting is the 1/2 NPT type?
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 09:06 PM
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Take a picture with the piping on.

I'll link you to affordable fittings, just have to find the page again lol. I've found almost all aluminum and steel AN fittings to be of comparable quality regardless of the name. 9/10 times they all sell the exact same fitting, just with varying degrees of overhead markup.

I'm assuming your drain fitting is the 1/2 NPT type?
Hell i would but I have already came back in from the garage.. I'm pissed lol

I believe it is
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lol i appreciate it

I'm looking on eBay for a 1/2" male to -10 AN male straight fitting and cannot seem to locate one?

You guys know where I can find one without paying $15 for it?
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As tight as it looks in there it looks like I will have to use a straight off of the turbo because the housing is in the way.. I can snap a pic if you need it?
So straight fitting off the turbo, bend the line over to the 90 in the pan. The line doesn't have to be perfectly straight...

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Between those four links, I'm sure you can find what you need. Just don't over-complicate it.
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Jegs. Straight off turbo, 90' into NPT fitting on pan.
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Ok, cool that you used Ultra. You never know on these forums when people ask certain questions.

Just how cheap are you trying to be? Feel like waiting a while?

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...057160&alt=web



I have ordered many fittings from this guy below and never had issues. Fast shipping, plus I like his name... haha!

http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...449953&alt=web

There are a couple more good sellers on eBay for fittings, but I can't recall their names right now. I know one comes out of Mechanicsville, VA. Meh...
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