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Old Jul 18, 2015 | 06:27 PM
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Default Fuel sys for VP Q16

This is the first time i'm venturing away from "pump gas" so I have a few questions. I'm aware q16 is corrosive my stock fuel lines have been removed due to a break i caused, so i'mstarting from scratch. My main questions are can i use my stock gas tank with a "full blown" dual hanger? i assume you use -AN lines with that setup. My old stock lines broke(my fault) so before i go buy a new OEM Honda feed/return is there even a point if i have to run -AN lines?. most builds I see have left the fuel components out thus this thread
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I'm in the dark about what is needed to run q16 as far as tank/pump(s)/lines to my ktuned kit.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 05:30 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Fuel sys for VP Q16

why race gas? e85 can make that power and more at a literal fraction of the cost.

Is e85 just not readily available locally?
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 03:55 AM
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Default Re: Fuel sys for VP Q16

Originally Posted by wantboost
why race gas? e85 can make that power and more at a literal fraction of the cost.

Is e85 just not readily available locally?
Its sort of available in the sense I have to order it, lots of the race shops around here sell q16 etc and have it in stock. E85 is not pump for us so i' be buying rockett brand E85 that I can run through my stock lines/tank/pump yes?
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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ID 2000 can NOT take q16 it will destroy them
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by civic-steve-94
ID 2000 can NOT take q16 it will destroy them
Cause it's oxygenated? if I can reach 700-wheel on rockett e85 that's fine. I assume e85 is ok with ID's but would need to do something other than stock lines and gas tank?. that's my real question pumps are easy to find
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Fuel sys for VP Q16

To my understanding its because of the MTBE that is in the fuel. If E85 is your alternative you gonna need a lot of pump like dual Bosch 044's. So you gonna have to sump the tank and make new lines anyway.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 01:07 PM
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Default Fuel sys for VP Q16

Pretty sure a single walbro 416lph e85 pump will be enough for his goal. I can't remember what someone said they got out of it but I have seen people make north of 600 with one
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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So "sumping" the tank or pending on the tanks condition a fuel cell set up? i'm not concerned about the work part. I just want to know that i'm using the right system and won't destroy ****.

I take it OEM lines(feed/return) are out of the question...I already removed them.
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Fuel sys for VP Q16

AN lines are easier to deal with anyway. Do you already have the ID 2000's? Injector dynamics just came out with new ID 1700's with full stainless internals that can take pretty much anything. You can also give the 416 a shot I have heard good things about them, I forgot about those... But good news is you can use adapters and some engineering to modify your factory hanger. And your stock tank will work just recommend flushing system to be safe, between race weekends
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 11:34 PM
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Default Fuel sys for VP Q16

For e85, stock tank, stock lines, and a 416lph should be fine for 650hp. I can't remember, but somewhere in the off topic thread they mentioned some pretty high numbers that could be reached with stock lines and e85
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Old Jul 22, 2015 | 04:08 AM
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I can return the 2000's and look into those, since it's a kswap -AN is easier since the stuff gests routed differently anyways. So pending the tank and hanger are in good shape just use those and modify the hanger as needed for the -AN's. I don't want to limit my self with stock lines since i would have to put them in again anyways ill ask my race shop what's required for the hanger.
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