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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 03:32 AM
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Default 92 civic dx sealed ball joints

i have some newer beck arnley / moog ball joints without a zerk fitting so there for they are sealed.. i came across this youtube video


the guy adds zerk fittings on sealed ball joints.. is there a down side to doing this? the negative i can think is that maybe those boots are "sealed" and would not push out old grease.. maybe only a good idea in a last ditch effort to buy more time when your joints are shot?
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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The ball joints are designed to be sealed and yes pushing grease into them will push into the boots until it has too much volume and the boot opens and now you no longer have sealed ball joints. But I'm not sure why you would do this unless you are so deep into the third world you can't get parts. I usually see Honda ball joints last well over 100k...
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by v4lu3s
The ball joints are designed to be sealed and yes pushing grease into them will push into the boots until it has too much volume and the boot opens and now you no longer have sealed ball joints. But I'm not sure why you would do this unless you are so deep into the third world you can't get parts. I usually see Honda ball joints last well over 100k...
It's a given that the design is sealed, but I think it's debatable that it's for the better.

Has the internal design changed so radically that being able to grease them is a liability? Did the zerk fitting ones not actually last longer if greased appropriately?

I've heard the argument made that tie rod ends and ball joints etc went sealed so part makers could get more sales as you can't grease them so they don't last as long.

I am personally of the opinion that having a zerk fitting is beneficial. However knowing how to grease and to not over grease is of course critical too. That being said, I have no data to support my opinion or support the opinion of sealed joints and ends should stay sealed.

It would be interesting to have actual data to support one or the other.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 02:07 PM
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Greaseable ball joints suck. People either never grease them or put too much grease in them and pop the boots. I have yet to see a greaseable ball joint or tie rod end outlast a sealed unit.

If you really want front end parts that last go buy OEM Honda parts. You'll generally get well over 100k out of them, upper ball joints especially tend to last 200+k.
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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 03:40 PM
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Agreed. Honda sealed ball joints and tie rods ends last well over 100K miles. Add a grease fitting, and the boots will eventually get popped, and then the grease gets out and water and dirt get in. Unnecessary to add fittings.

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Old Jul 14, 2015 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
Greaseable ball joints suck. People either never grease them or put too much grease in them and pop the boots. I have yet to see a greaseable ball joint or tie rod end outlast a sealed unit.

If you really want front end parts that last go buy OEM Honda parts. You'll generally get well over 100k out of them, upper ball joints especially tend to last 200+k.
This is compelling enough for me.
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