Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 5, 2015 | 08:16 PM
  #1  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Hey! New guy here ..

Along with my new (to me) Civic and my new registration on this site, i also bring a new thread!

I got my second Civic and I'm looking to get an exhaust system for it .. It has the original D16Y8 VTEC inside with a STOCK exhaust getting a big thumbs down! My old sedan came with a 4-2-1 header with a flat downpipe to a 2.25" exhaust system straight pipe with a res to a OBX-R Twin Loop muffler .. I liked the sound of that and then swapped from the downpipe back .. it now has a 2.5" catless system to a res to a Yonaka Motorsports muffler with a 4.25" tip ..

Sorry for dragging this out, i really am: i like the sound of the yonaka but it didnt line up right on his coupe and my old sedan, the tip sat angled to the left and obnoxiously stuck out from the bumper

I dont feel like spending $600 for another Yonaka (even though i liked it) to have to go through the hassle of returning it if for say it has the same problem on my new coupe

What i need to know
Im looking and found a J2 Engineering system for $300 that i really like and cant seem to find a video on the sound to give me an idea.. this is a 2.5" system which will also be catless to a res to the muffler out of a 3.5" tip, i also am going to get the 4-2-1 header and downpipe .. i want it to be loud, but dont want a crappy, raspy(could care less), RICEY sounding exhaust .. other words i dont want the ebay no name brand sound .. i like the look and the fitment looks flush considering the fact the pic shows an eg when i have a ek.... Opinions??











Reply
Old Jun 5, 2015 | 09:34 PM
  #2  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Pro-tip: You get what you pay for. If a $600 exhaust (you severely overpaid - it's only $230 on their website) didn't fit right, what makes you think a $300 exhaust will?

If you want a good exhaust, skip getting a "full system". Get a piping kit. Any cheap piping kit will do. Now get the resonator, cat, and muffler that you want. You now have a full, complete system, customized to exactly what you want, for the best price you can find.

Start here.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2015 | 06:11 PM
  #3  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by NotARaCist
Pro-tip: You get what you pay for. If a $600 exhaust (you severely overpaid - it's only $230 on their website) didn't fit right, what makes you think a $300 exhaust will?

If you want a good exhaust, skip getting a "full system". Get a piping kit. Any cheap piping kit will do. Now get the resonator, cat, and muffler that you want. You now have a full, complete system, customized to exactly what you want, for the best price you can find.

Start here.
Thanks for the info, ill def look into it.. i guess my main question for this topic would be, have u heard about j2 engineering? Are they reputable company that produces a quality product .. im looking for a nice sound, not a cheap no name sound
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2015 | 07:11 PM
  #4  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Looks like just another eBay no name brand to me.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 03:37 AM
  #5  
tercel95's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,030
Likes: 0
From: Lexington Park, MD, USA
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by NotARaCist

If you want a good exhaust, skip getting a "full system". Get a piping kit. Any cheap piping kit will do. Now get the resonator, cat, and muffler that you want. You now have a full, complete system, customized to exactly what you want, for the best price you can find.
Agree with this. You can also usually get a completely custom exhaust done at an exhaust shop for cheaper than you would pay for a mid level bolt-on exhaust. I got 2.5" stainless steel done for about $300 + the cost of the muffler and resonator that I chose and it's all welded, not clamped together.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 11:15 AM
  #6  
Hites's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

I like that the tip is less than 4".
I'll have to keep them in mind if/when I need a new exhaust for my civic.
The closer the tip diameter is to the piping diameter, the better.
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2015 | 12:36 PM
  #7  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by tercel95
Agree with this. You can also usually get a completely custom exhaust done at an exhaust shop for cheaper than you would pay for a mid level bolt-on exhaust. I got 2.5" stainless steel done for about $300 + the cost of the muffler and resonator that I chose and it's all welded, not clamped together.
+1. My current exhaust setup consists of piping, a resonator, high flow cat, and muffler all bought separately, and welded together at a local shop. I think I'm all in for under $400 on it.

Originally Posted by Hites
The closer the tip diameter is to the piping diameter, the better.
Arbitrary statements like this hold no water, and have no place in tech. Better for what? It certainly won't have any appreciable effect on power or sound.
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2015 | 12:13 PM
  #8  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by NotARaCist
+1. My current exhaust setup consists of piping, a resonator, high flow cat, and muffler all bought separately, and welded together at a local shop. I think I'm all in for under $400 on it.



Arbitrary statements like this hold no water, and have no place in tech. Better for what? It certainly won't have any appreciable effect on power or sound.
I'm planning on running a cat-less system on my ride, one of the reasons being that the men in uniform where I live have nothing better to do than hate on a Honda, and when my old Civic was runnin' a 2.5" cat-less system to the 4.25" tip on the Yonaka I got stopped every other day .. I feel like this system is nice definitely looks wise, sound? I don't know ahah
Reply
Old Jul 5, 2015 | 10:47 PM
  #9  
eghatch9295's Avatar
Stancetard Hate Monger
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,633
Likes: 5
From: cleveland, oh, usa
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

2.5"= too big for stock dseries. $300 for an exhaust system= junk. my muffler was more.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 04:52 PM
  #10  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by eghatch9295
2.5"= too big for stock dseries. $300 for an exhaust system= junk. my muffler was more.
Soo are you saying that 2.5" piping is a power drainer on a stock D16?
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 05:00 PM
  #11  
tony_2018's Avatar
Fish Twig
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,554
Likes: 309
From: Still hunting that foo up there
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

You're not going to see any improvements for a dd.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 09:16 PM
  #12  
eghatch9295's Avatar
Stancetard Hate Monger
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,633
Likes: 5
From: cleveland, oh, usa
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by bluerocz
Soo are you saying that 2.5" piping is a power drainer on a stock D16?
yes, i am. my track car has a bigger engine and a 2.25" exhaust. mega huge exhaust diameters do nothing on a d series engine. you may actually see power go down, but at least itll sound cool.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 10:15 PM
  #13  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by eghatch9295
yes, i am. my track car has a bigger engine and a 2.25" exhaust. mega huge exhaust diameters do nothing on a d series engine. you may actually see power go down, but at least itll sound cool.
I think I am mainly looking for sound and looks outta the D series .. I definitely want it to go fast don't get me wrong, but I want it loud AND fast lol .. I do in fact plan on a swap in the future tho!

As for right now, it's about fixing cosmetics and looks.. Once winter time comes around, I plan to take it off the road and swap it

On a real tho, power going down?? Not cool xD
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 11:10 PM
  #14  
eghatch9295's Avatar
Stancetard Hate Monger
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,633
Likes: 5
From: cleveland, oh, usa
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

best thing you can do is a LEGIT high flow cat, and better flowing muffler. OEM rsx is a popular choice, but really anything other than stock.
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2015 | 11:15 PM
  #15  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Power going down is correct to this specific application, but doesn't tell the whole story. A larger diameter exhaust shifts the torque band upwards. For a D series engine, 3" piping moves it so far up, that it's well out of the engine's rev range. Even 2.5" is too big for NA. eghatch is right on point with 2.25".
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 06:52 AM
  #16  
tony_2018's Avatar
Fish Twig
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,554
Likes: 309
From: Still hunting that foo up there
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by bluerocz
I think I am mainly looking for sound and looks outta the D series .. I definitely want it to go fast don't get me wrong, but I want it loud AND fast lol .. I do in fact plan on a swap in the future tho!

As for right now, it's about fixing cosmetics and looks.. Once winter time comes around, I plan to take it off the road and swap it

On a real tho, power going down?? Not cool xD
Spray your engine chrome if you want to bling out the D-series.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2015 | 08:52 AM
  #17  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

I just found a Yonaka catback on their website for $250 when on ebay it was $600 lmfao
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 04:11 AM
  #18  
tony_2018's Avatar
Fish Twig
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 15,554
Likes: 309
From: Still hunting that foo up there
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Thats sad that you spent 600 on an exhaust system that only cost 250.. be a better shopper dude and search around. And I don't mean post in this section "where is the best place to buy XYZ"
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 01:16 PM
  #19  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

Originally Posted by tony_2018
Thats sad that you spent 600 on an exhaust system that only cost 250.. be a better shopper dude and search around. And I don't mean post in this section "where is the best place to buy XYZ"
Oh **** my bad i must not have worded that correctly . What i meant by that was my previous civic had the $600 yonaka .. i didnt pay for it, it came on my buddies car when he bought his and i traded him .. lol i just want a brand new system hahaha sorry bout the confusion on that
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 04:57 PM
  #20  
eghatch9295's Avatar
Stancetard Hate Monger
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,633
Likes: 5
From: cleveland, oh, usa
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

unless it was 2.5 yonaka cat back systems taped together, it couldnt have been $600
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 05:16 PM
  #21  
NotARaCist's Avatar
I never narc'd on nobody!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 9,537
Likes: 2
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

You have to remember, eghatch, Yonaka is the kind of company that always has their stuff "on sale", so it looks like you're getting a deal. Right now, their full exhaust systems for the 6G are $249.99, "discounted from $449". Same with their mounts. "On sale" for $79.99, "regularly" $299. When I bought my mounts from them, something like 6 months ago, they were (you guessed it) $79.99.

They just do it to make it look like you're getting a better deal than you actually are.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 06:37 PM
  #22  
eghatch9295's Avatar
Stancetard Hate Monger
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,633
Likes: 5
From: cleveland, oh, usa
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

now that makes some sense. so yonaka is the immigrant owned electronics store of the auto parts world?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 07:37 PM
  #23  
bluerocz's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Wallingford, CT
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

LMFAO .. Yeah $250 discounted originally like $4xx and change .. Still though, better than ebay for $600 tryna rob *****s for full retail lmfao
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2015 | 07:59 PM
  #24  
volcom4012's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles, ca, usa
Default Re: 98 Civic Ex - Exhaust

In my opinion I have always had better luck with a custom exhaust made by my local muffler shop. They will have an idea what muffler will sound best. Typically they will put a magnaflow or a flowmaster which will have a deeper tone. That's just my 2 cents but like others have said you get what you pay for. Cheers!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RA031624
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
1
Mar 18, 2015 09:15 AM
lolaEX19
Honda Civic (2006 - 2015)
1
Apr 30, 2013 12:34 AM
sol_1
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Apr 23, 2009 11:09 AM
98civicexsohc
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
31
Mar 18, 2004 08:34 AM
redexchris
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
27
Sep 25, 2003 08:28 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:23 AM.