I did search, read through every one of results
(for daily driven car)

Currently stock motor with 370cc injectors-hondata, icebox, jdm4-1 header, 63.5mm cat&exhaust, 8.5 lb flywheel

My options

1. head port-n-polish, cam gears (maybe some stage 1 camshafts), toda header....... with this i'd like to get to ~200whp.
or
2. For about same price I could run custom turbo kit, hondata/boost option and make more than 200whp with low boost.

If I'm to go with #1, that would be the end of mods, i would not want cams or any other mods. reasons - reliability and somewhat of increased maintanance.

Running turbo would yeld more hp, and if i'm to keep it low boost - it should last longer and be more reliable for daily driving? - am i getting this right?


[Modified by vtec.dc2, 6:37 PM 11/3/2002]

 

200 whp with stage 1 cams? i dont think this would be the end of the mods for 200whp.
i believe n/a would be more reliable than boost.

 

you'd be surprised.

 

exactly, i'd say if the turbo was installed and tuned properly, it can be just as reliable as an NA setup. Just cause its NA doesnt mean its reliable, any time you mess with the motor (cams, etc) you risk the chance of install error or product failure.

 

thats what i used to think.. but there seem to be a number of type r's running mid 200's or more with no problem (or as far as i know)..

hearing so many complaints about agressive cams snapping or tearing everytning around them, low boost for same money is starting to make more sence to me... but opinions are welcome

 

its all up to you. either way when you play with aftermarket components some error may come into play. i dont think na is more reliable than turbo or vice versa. give you an example, i just put my head back together and put it back on the block, car never blew smoke at all, and now it seems i have problems with the rings in cylinder 3. just all of a sudden, by the way, i am na and making 215whp, your setup will not yield 200whp, just an fyi for you.

 

how do you know that? there have been plenty of dyno's on here that have similar hp with similar mods.

 

all about TUNING

 

i just estimated.. maybe mid 90's...
currently 176
lets say port&polish 5-10hp, toda header 3-5hp, stage 1 cams 5hp,= 13-20hp

i'd rather not make it into debate - it would just be the most i'd do as N/A

 

well stock bottom end would probably have something to do with not making 200whp, but hey it is all about tuning and thats my .02. good luck with what ever route you may choose.

 

Not quite the same price dude...a 'reliable' turbo setup on an ITR is going to cost MUCH more


[Modified by MiraiZ, 12:25 PM 11/4/2002]

 

hmm... i was thinkin of goin NA at first... recently have been lookin in to go turbo.. but now.. ive finally decided to save up and go NA

 

o and you say stage 1 cams.. what cams are you referring to

 

probably the mild cams, Toda A's, skunk 1s, etc.

 

True, but a properly done turbo setup is the fizzle.

 

yep, one of these

 

i think i'm gonna change my direction towards boost.
would like to end up around 230whp. So maybe 3-4psi to get there with hondata s200/boost option
Really don't know where to start...
If anyone has any suggestions, information, links - let me know

thanks

 

Boost!!

 

3-4 psi? PLease, run 6psi, it can be done just as easily....

 

well.. more hp - why not..

my reason for running lower boost - i might not tax the motor as much? - unless it makes no differnce running 6psi vs 3-4psi.. then i might reconsider

 

People have run double digits on a stock R motor with no problems, though I personally think boosting our motors is retarded.

Jason-
who thinks the money can buy a lot more power elsewhere...

 

I personally think boosting our motors is retarded


us retarded boosted C5 owners enjoy rolling all forms of street cars all the while laughing at dumbphuckheads that think boosting is a waste off $$$.


1 Bar on a C5 is off the fizzle!!!!!

 

Make up your mind ahead of time and stick to it.
Otherwise it may never end.


[Modified by Zygspeed, 4:19 PM 11/7/2002]

 

well.. my mind is made up that i will be going FI route... although i got no clue on what to look for in custom kit, other than i'll be using hondata for managment.. anyone can help out?

 

research...and have a lot of money ready...that's all I gotta say