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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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I have a 93 honda civic hatchback with a JDM B18C TYPE R swap. The car won't start. It cranks but doesn't start. Everything I've read says replace fuel pump, check fuses, replace pump relay. I've done everything I could find online but nothing has worked. Can someone please help me figure this out? I inherited this car so I did none of the work on it. I'm stuck
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 08:09 PM
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Motor needs 5 things to start

Timing
Fuel
Air
Compression
Spark

Figure out which one it doesnt have
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
Motor needs 5 things to start

Timing
Fuel
Air
Compression
Spark

Figure out which one it doesnt have
When I turn the key it sounds like it wants to start. The fuel pump doesn't prime or make any noise and the fuel pressure gauge at the fuel rail is registering 0..Friday night the car ran fine no problems. Saturday morning no start..
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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That info would have helped in your OP.

You said you did it all, but lets go again.

Fuses
Check for power AT the pump.
How did you check the relay?

You need to let us know everything you tried.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:00 PM
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That info would have helped in your OP.

You said you did it all, but lets go again.

Fuses
Check for power AT the pump.
How did you check the relay?

You need to let us know everything you tried.
Yeah forgot that part. I don't know how I can check power at the pump my tools and funds are limited. Bought a new relay and installed it. Also bought new fuel pump (full blown 290-2). It's what was in it already.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:02 PM
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Yeah forgot that part. I don't know how I can check power at the pump my tools and funds are limited. Bought a new relay and installed it. Also bought new fuel pump (full blown 290-2). It's what was in it already.
Checked every fuse in the car
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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Pull the fuse and check it.

To test the pump power, you need a multi-meter or even a test light will do it. Turn the key to run, and see if you have power.

Then we can go from there.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:06 PM
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Pull the fuse and check it.

To test the pump power, you need a multi-meter or even a test light will do it. Turn the key to run, and see if you have power.

Then we can go from there.
I've pulled every fuse and checked it. Is there a way to check for power without a multi meter or test light? Don't know anyone that has one.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:18 PM
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You can get a multi-meter for free some months at Harbor Freight. Otherwise they are about $10 there. Radio Shack prob has a sale on them now too. Frys. Micro Center.. etc..

Its really one of the MOST important tools you will need.

IF you are REALLY that broke, remove your interior light bulb, then take a length of wire, cut it in half, and solder the ends to each of it. Stick one end in the power lead to the pump, and ground the other to the frame (With the key to run) and see if it lights.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 09:32 PM
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Actually, I just bought an LED at Radio Shack for $3 that would do the job. #276-0270

Put red lead on the positive, black to ground and see if it lights.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 04:40 AM
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Actually, I just bought an LED at Radio Shack for $3 that would do the job. #276-0270

Put red lead on the positive, black to ground and see if it lights.
I read you can jump the #1 and #7pins in the relay plug with a paper clip to check power to the pump....or the #5 to the #7
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I read you can jump the #1 and #7pins in the relay plug with a paper clip to check power to the pump....or the #5 to the #7
Correct.

Also, test fuses 24 and 31. Click the Test Fuses link in my signature.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 10:53 AM
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Correct.
OK. So if I do that and I do get power to the pump what's next?
And if I do that and don't get power to the pump what action should I take then? I'm at work for another 2 hours but as soon as I'm home I will try that and post a response.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 11:17 AM
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OK. So if I do that and I do get power to the pump what's next?
And if I do that and don't get power to the pump what action should I take then?
Either way, more tests are needed, so do the suggested ones and post the results.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Either way, more tests are needed, so do the suggested ones and post the results.
OK. Results post to follow thanks Ron.
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:01 AM
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So still don't have a multi meter but I tried jumping the number 1 to 7 and 5 to 7 but still the pump doesn't make any noise. What's next?
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:17 AM
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Take it to a shop
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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Thanks but not very helpful
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:38 AM
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Obviously the pump won't make noise while its unplugged for testing.

You need to check for power at the pump.

One end of test light to positive, the other end to the body, and turn the key.
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:48 AM
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No test light no multi meter, all my tools were stolen a few months ago...
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 10:50 AM
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No test light no multi meter, all my tools were stolen a few months ago...
You don't have a bulb and a piece of wire?

All you need is a piece of wire, and take a bulb out of somewhere in the car.

It was explained how you can make a makeshift test light.
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 11:14 AM
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You don't have a bulb and a piece of wire?

All you need is a piece of wire, and take a bulb out of somewhere in the car.

It was explained how you can make a makeshift test light.
Please excuse my stupidness because I don't know correct terms for things but I took the ignition cover off where the spark plugs connect and the screw came out of the thing that spins around I put it back in and the didn't seem to be any damage. Could my timing now be off? Could that be the issue? Pretty sure I'm getting fuel too there engine because when I loosen the fuel line at the pump fuel comes out under pressure
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Originally Posted by testify
You don't have a bulb and a piece of wire? All you need is a piece of wire, and take a bulb out of somewhere in the car. It was explained how you can make a makeshift test light.
How do you know how much voltage the fuel pump would have like this?

Test lights and stuff like this are useless please dont tel anyone to do this
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Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
How do you know how much voltage the fuel pump would have like this?

Test lights and stuff like this are useless please dont tel anyone to do this
It useless in measuring voltage, however, it is not useless in determining if the pump is getting NO power.
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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by testify
It useless in measuring voltage, however, it is not useless in determining if the pump is getting NO power.
Pump has power read comment above
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