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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 07:26 AM
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im having issues where my main relay is good and my fuel pump works. When i turn the key on it will not turn the fuel pump on. I put my relay in my friends civic and it worked. I used a jump wire to 1 & 7 and the fuel pump comes on. I see this is a common issue in 90's model hondas. i have a 95 civic Dx. Any help?
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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Check whether 15A dash fuse 24 is blown.
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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both fuses are good. very confusing
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:34 AM
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both fuses are good. very confusing
So did you jump 5-7 in the main relay connector? Does the pump run with this test?
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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just tried it fuel pump kicked on, ecu ground looks good. i had the issue where it seemed like the main relay was going out. Taking a while for the fuel pump to kick on now it doesn't at all
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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just tried it fuel pump kicked on, ecu ground looks good. i had the issue where it seemed like the main relay was going out. Taking a while for the fuel pump to kick on now it doesn't at all
Sounds like a bad ECU. Plug everything back in and then unplug ECU connector A.

Turn key to ON(II) and then ground terminal A7 or A8 in the ECU connector. Does the pump run everytime you ground the terminal?
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 08:58 AM
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the terminals where the main relay goes right?
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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The ECU is behind the passenger kick panel.

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so i jump A7 to A8?
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so i jump A7 to A8?
No. With key in ON(II), use a wire to ground terminal A7 in the unplugged connector to the metal frame under the dash.
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fuel pump didn't cut on
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What was the wire color at the terminal you grounded? Key in ON(II)?
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yellow & green
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 09:42 AM
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Grn/Yel? Key in ON(II)?

Describe what you did. Just need to make sure test was done correctly.
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ok i unplugged A terminal on the ecu. put my jumper wire inside the plug where the yellow green wire is and turned the key on nothing happened . Opened the ecu and it has a burnt spot on the motherboard
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Where is the jumper wire in your picture? The wire is Green/Yellow not Yellow/Green. There's a difference.
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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the black wire on the left side and the yellow & green one
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Can't help you if you don't follow instructions.
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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im trying i dont much about this stuff
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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ok i tried the wrong wire i found the green and yellow and it still didn't kick it on
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Whiteonblackej
Opened the ecu and it has a burnt spot on the motherboard
Is it by chance under a capacitor?

Capacitor would look like this:

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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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yup little black circle under it and its broke on one prong
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I believe you finally managed to do Ron's test correctly by finding the Green/Yellow wire which I am thinking confirms it being the ECU.

With the popped cap in the ECU, you could try replacing the capacitor and see if the ECU is still good and if it fixes your issue.

Ron may have more tests to verify things even though it looks pretty cut and dry with your recent discovery.
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Old Dec 31, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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ok thanks for the help guys i ordered a ecu and just gonna try it out. Ill update what happens when it arrives
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