Suspension bushings
I took my car for an alignment and the mechanic said I need the trailing arm bushings. Looking at the rest of the bushings in the rear suspension, I think I should replace them as well. I don't know the names of the others or what they go too.
I was thinking of getting a full rebuild kit from Energy suspension. Anyone do a complete rebuild with these? I've read that the motor mount inserts make the car vibrate a lot more. Are they better than OEM? Or what would you recommend.
Also how can I find out the names of the bushing so I can order them on rock auto? I can't seem to find them all on Majestic Honda and the ones I can find I can't cross reference the part number.
Any help would be appreciated.
I was thinking of getting a full rebuild kit from Energy suspension. Anyone do a complete rebuild with these? I've read that the motor mount inserts make the car vibrate a lot more. Are they better than OEM? Or what would you recommend.
Also how can I find out the names of the bushing so I can order them on rock auto? I can't seem to find them all on Majestic Honda and the ones I can find I can't cross reference the part number.
Any help would be appreciated.
Back int he day I used the ES master kit (standard red poly) and I had no problems with it.
It is common for these bushings to squeak, but with proper greasing it isn't an issue.
A better alternative is a graphite impregnated (black) urethane.
The graphite adds lubricity so greasing isn't required.
Prothane makes a great product and I would probably go with them over ES if I was in the market.
The motor mount inserts can vibrate more than some people can tolerate. Out of everything in the kit, the engine mounts seem to be the questionable parts.
If you enjoy the sporty feel, then this shouldn't bother you much.
There are other ways to go about it if vibration is a concern - you can simply replace with new mounts (good mounts are pricey though, cheap mounts break/wear out quickly).
You can fill mounts with 3M WindoWeld (check google for the process) for something in between stock and poly stiffness.
For just a mild upgrade, you can fill in the gaps with fuel line tubing.
Where are the bushings located that you are having problems finding names for?
It is common for these bushings to squeak, but with proper greasing it isn't an issue.
A better alternative is a graphite impregnated (black) urethane.
The graphite adds lubricity so greasing isn't required.
Prothane makes a great product and I would probably go with them over ES if I was in the market.
The motor mount inserts can vibrate more than some people can tolerate. Out of everything in the kit, the engine mounts seem to be the questionable parts.
If you enjoy the sporty feel, then this shouldn't bother you much.
There are other ways to go about it if vibration is a concern - you can simply replace with new mounts (good mounts are pricey though, cheap mounts break/wear out quickly).
You can fill mounts with 3M WindoWeld (check google for the process) for something in between stock and poly stiffness.
For just a mild upgrade, you can fill in the gaps with fuel line tubing.
Where are the bushings located that you are having problems finding names for?
If you are interested in street performance, I would recommend the Hardrace hard rubber bushing kit and a $150 20-ton silver press from Harbor Freight.
This place has the complete 26 (1988) or 28 (1989-91) piece bushing kit for $285 shipped.
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This place has the complete 26 (1988) or 28 (1989-91) piece bushing kit for $285 shipped.
Hardrace Misc Items « Hardrace Bushings « Free Shipping
I purchased a set of hard rubber bushings from Pic Performance about 2009. I replaced all of the bushings on the car at that time. They were really bad after 20 years and almost 200k. I recently had a chance to look at them all again and they seem to be holding up well. It stiffens everything up noticeably without being too bad for a daily driver. I am not sure if PIC still sells anything, but other sellers like hardrace have the hard rubber bushings too. Pic was slightly less money though at the time. I would buy them again for street use, without hesitation.
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Hardrace is your best bet. For the price it's an incredible set.
So far I only have their front UCA bushings on my EG. They've been great. Not really much different than stock in this specific location. I didn't notice much difference, though the rubber was definitely stiffer.
I think I also have Mugen front compliance bushings so I can comment on that position. I can say for sure that hard-rubber compliance bushings made quite a difference in road feedback, but no problems in noise and ride quality.
I have a set of Hardrace lower torque motor mounts for EG/EK/DC coming in the mail tomorrow. I'm hopping they help with motor control without adding too much vibration. People complain their complete motor mount set (like most performance mounts) are too harsh for normal street driving, so I went with the two lower mounts only. Hopefully that makes for a mild setup with less wheel-hop on high grip surfaces.
The only other hard bushing I've heard people complain about would be the hard trailing arms. The Hardrace version is a copy of the Spoon design. Both are almost completely solid. The Mugen ones look just like regular Honda and people with both in hand say they can't tell any difference. Personally I would probably sell the Hardrace TA bushings and use standard SR3 Honda ones instead.
So far I only have their front UCA bushings on my EG. They've been great. Not really much different than stock in this specific location. I didn't notice much difference, though the rubber was definitely stiffer.
I think I also have Mugen front compliance bushings so I can comment on that position. I can say for sure that hard-rubber compliance bushings made quite a difference in road feedback, but no problems in noise and ride quality.
I have a set of Hardrace lower torque motor mounts for EG/EK/DC coming in the mail tomorrow. I'm hopping they help with motor control without adding too much vibration. People complain their complete motor mount set (like most performance mounts) are too harsh for normal street driving, so I went with the two lower mounts only. Hopefully that makes for a mild setup with less wheel-hop on high grip surfaces.
The only other hard bushing I've heard people complain about would be the hard trailing arms. The Hardrace version is a copy of the Spoon design. Both are almost completely solid. The Mugen ones look just like regular Honda and people with both in hand say they can't tell any difference. Personally I would probably sell the Hardrace TA bushings and use standard SR3 Honda ones instead.
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