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Old Oct 21, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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I have a serious problem, i found oil down in my spark plug holes when removing my valve cover, so i pulled the plugs and bought new ones. All the oil drained down into the pistons. Then i got seals to stop the oil going into my block. Started driving and came to a stop sign and the car shut off, started it back up idled at 200RPM. Went to work and drove home (60miles) on this problem. Got spark plugs, new oil and filter. Still did it. Well, only option was to think it was a cracked head, valve, or head gasket. I looked over the head, no cracks, valves arnt cracked and the pistons had full 155lbs of pressure across all 4 cylinders. Started it up after putting the headgasket on it, Still smoking . (more white than blue)
WHAT COULD THIS BE??? !!!!!!! keep in mind the pictures shown i cleaned one side and compared it to the side that was dirty. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!











Old Oct 21, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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wow really? you dont need to be a master mechanic to see the problem there.....
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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wow really? you dont need to be a master mechanic to see the problem there.....
then go ahead and tell me so i can repeat my self
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 08:05 PM
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If u r sure the head gaskets good and seals are good. Then u have a warped head or block surface
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ef2_civic
If u r sure the head gaskets good and seals are good. Then u have a warped head or block surface
i have NOT replaced valve stem seals, thats the next option.... others say oil ring could be bad on piston too
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 09:07 PM
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Please read the rules sticky at the top of this forum. You have failed to follow the basic rules for posting in the Tech section.

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Originally Posted by ef2_civic
Then u have a warped head or block surface
Visual inspection of the head is not even remotely comparable to machine shop tests. It also sound like you didn't check the block or the head for warp with a precision straight edge (laser cut straight edge) and feeler gauges. Also without a run out gauge to test the valve guide play, replacing valve seals may not have any affect.

Two pistons look pretty nicely steam cleaned, they should have some carbon buildup but don't, while one has a fair amount of buildup.

And without the required information, I can't be certain what seals should be present in the head and what shouldn't be.
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 10:01 PM
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"Full" 155 lbs of pressure? That's near the bottom of spec. I'm very confused about your situation. How did oil in the spark plug tube turn into a headgasket job? I think you have more oil on the outside of your motor than on the inside. I hope you cleaned off the surfaces before installing the new headgasket.
Old Oct 21, 2014 | 10:14 PM
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Wants "Master Mechanic" but posts on Honda-Tech!

Old Oct 21, 2014 | 10:38 PM
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If you want a master mechanic, take your car to a dealership. If you want to work on your car yourself, listen to what some of us have to say. So you have 155 PSI across all four AFTER the head gasket? Is that actually the compression on all four, or were you just rounding off? Don't round off - give us exact numbers, per cylinder. Go do a wet compression test, and give us those numbers, too. While you're at it, do a leakdown test and tell us where the pressure is being lost.

Once you've done those three things, then we can talk.

Also, that smoke is clearly blue, not white. Stop driving the car before you destroy the motor.
Old Oct 22, 2014 | 04:13 AM
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Some people have too much time on their hands and apparently money to throw away...

Perform a proper cold and hot - although a hot compression check could be an issue here - and a cylinder leakage test. Please post exact numbers.

All you have done up to this point is make the diagnosis even harder, now that you took the cylinder head off and apparently didn't even get it properlly cleaned and inspected.

Just do those two tests and go from there.
Old Oct 22, 2014 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TomCat39
Please read the rules sticky at the top of this forum. You have failed to follow the basic rules for posting in the Tech section.

After you understand what is missing come back and edit your first post and add the relevant missing information.

Failure to do this will result in your thread getting closed up.

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And if you require a master mechanic, then drive to a local shop and pull out your credit card.
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