http://www.ebay.com/itm/GTX3582R-Turbo-Charger-Dual-Ball-bearing-CNC-Billet-Wheel-Tur-A-R-82-T3-Flange-/121329468398?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c3fccc3ee&vxp=mtr
I'm sure these have been discussed here... But just curious what yall think of em.

 

Real one 1500 fake one 580. What do you think ?

 

U would be better off with a Pte jb iMO. Or find a used turbo than that thing.

 

Show me where you can get a complete unit with turbine housing for $1,500 because I will buy a few to turn them around for a $500 profit per unit minimum LOL.

It's probably on par with a Precision unit. Actually you might get a better warranty out of the deal with the knock off one. Buy it OP, I have nothing to lose if you do. Do some testing for us!

 

wow another one of these threads by the same guy

 

Seriously.

OP, stop ******* around with cheap turbos. Just pull the trigger on a good one that's the proper size for your setup. Stop trying to be a special little snowflake, and just do what everyone has already told you that you should. Most of us know what we're talking about, and when we say "do X if you want Y", it's a good idea to listen.

 

Ive never bought a cheap turbo.. ever.. Its tempting to buy one though. They are warrantied. Hmmm. Special little snowflake, thats clever.

 

sure. Even though its the norm to stay away from knock off ****, why do people think its IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to perfectly replicate a item, or actually improve its design?

Just because they're chinese doesn't mean its junk. Don't get me wrong, china's standards compared to ours is no comparison at all, but that does not mean every business in china doesn't have standards. I'm the type of guy that isn't going to believe you right away just because you told me. I'm a skeptic like all of you.

 

They have been popping up all over with really good reviews as long as you get the true bearing turbo.

 

 

and I wonder how you determine that.

 

just wait and see the threads that pop on here. someone will buy it and we will see how long it lasts

 

"it uses ball bearing for both sides, that is why it's called "dual"
lol, thanks for kwawifiwing

But I don't know, man..I don't have the gamblin' bone...do it!
Somebody has to.
I wonder how many the people there who labor all day produce...and where do they all go?

 

The only problem with that idea is that one data point isn't enough. How many tens, if not hundreds of thousands of cars are running Garrett turbos without problems? One person running a knockoff turbo without any problems is just a piece of insignificant luck, until there's a strong market share of them. Garrett (and other major manufacturers) design, engineer, and build to a specification. Knockoff companies don't design, don't engineer, and then build to a budget. They're still in the 90's Hyundai stage - sure, there are good ones out there, but there are also a shitload of them with a rod knock just outside of warranty.

 

Not a chance...just read their advertisement. I'm sorry that you speak Chinese or whatever, but if you want to be taken seriously as a reputible company in the US (or other English-speaking country), then hire someone to correctly translate your ads. It is one of the better looking ads for a knock off product though.

OP - Give it a shot and let us know how it works

 

Here is my issue with that turbo. I would gamble on a knock-off turbo on a stock long block 300HP GSR set-up. A turbo of that size requires a considerable investment in upgrading your shortblock to really take advantage of it. I would never put a knock-off on a high dollar engine.

 

Now that makes sense.

I would have no problem running a knock-off turbo on a low boost low power stock engine **** box.

 

I've seen a few of these being run, no clue on how reliable they are. Assuming the materials aren't **** and some tolerances were maintained in addition to proper balance and assembly I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I've thought about running one for giggles, although I don't have a need for anything as big as a gt35. If someone made a similar gt28-gt30 I'd try it for ***** and giggles.

 

The same company makes a 3076 knockoff for the same price, with housings. I didn't bother looking for 28's, but safe bet they make a knockoff 2860. It seems they picked the most popular sizes to make copies of - no 3071 to be found.

 

maybe I'll run one at 300-350 on my svt focus and just see what happens lol. I have backups if it ***** the bed

 

GT2860R GT28R Dual Ball Bearing Turbo Charger T25 Flange TUR 64 AR | eBay

...verrryyy tempting....

 

I didn't mean to insinuate they are performing well in service, I just marvel at how the company stays solvent. They must be producing many a day.
Wonder what else they make there? lol
Are the products just disseminated around the world like bad ecstasy?
Are there that many people that just toss their money for sketchy stuff?

 

99% of everything you touch on a daily basis is or has components in it from China, Taiwan, Mexico, etc.

The majority of companies produce high quality products, others are just in it to make fast money. A guy in China is making 100% physically identical clones of Brembo brake kits and components. Copies so good they even fooled Brembo until metallurgy tests were done. That and the fact they were a mere fraction of the price of legitimate Brembo parts.

Mexico has actually become an aerospace technology superpower... Most of the companies that have pioneered the latest developments in aerospace are based in Mexico.

So don't write it off just because it comes from another country. Unless you slept through economics class you'd know that the United States has gone from a production/industrial economy to a consuming economy...

Ever shopped at Walmart? There's a 99.9% chance that everything you bought other than food was produced in China.

 

Of course I've shopped at Walmart, but when I'm buying a suit, I don't spend $200 and buy it at Walmart - I spend a grand and get an actual good suit. It's not about where it comes from. It's about the quality and proven track record of where it's coming from. Garrett turbos have a long-standing track record of being highly reliable. Knockoff turbos from whatever country they might come from, whether it be China, Taiwan, Korea, Mexico, or whatever, have a track record of shitting on their owners.

I wouldn't walk into an interview for a $100k/yr job wearing a Walmart suit. I also wouldn't trust a $2000 engine build to a knockoff turbo.

 

If a turbo fails it rarely results in engine failure, normally it's the other way around. Engine failure kills a turbo lol.

You can't buy a suit at Walmart... At least not yet.

I mean if you buy one of these and it works... Brilliant.

If it fails you've learned something and have a fairly interesting piece of desk art. You should see the components that suffered from epic failures I have as art lol.

I have at least 3 turbos laying around I could replace one of these with if it failed. Based on what I've seen of this manufacturer the quality is on point... The reason the price is low is you aren't paying for Garretts overhead nor their R&D costs. Why pay to develop a part when someone else will foot the bill for you

It's just that the majority of Chinese knockoff companies you see have little care or concern for quality, only cost and how much money they can make and how quickly... Most Chinese companies don't operate this way and whoever decided to produce these turbos seems to be the latter.