Competition clutch twin disc splines sheared...

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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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Default Competition clutch twin disc splines sheared...

Well apparently I spoke too soon last week about not having any issues lately. Car was making awful racket when trying to go into gear so I towed it to the shop. Once apart found the inner splines on the trans side friction disc completely sheared. Just curious if this is happening to anyone else. The clutch has 6500 miles at 500whp on street tires with three passes on slicks waaaay back when it was freshly built last year.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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Pics would help obviously. I phone
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Wow, that's impressive for 500hp.
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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Well, horsepower doesn't break clutches, torque does. What kind of torque numbers are you putting down? Have you contacted CC about this?
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
Well, horsepower doesn't break clutches, torque does. What kind of torque numbers are you putting down? Have you contacted CC about this?
Dont quote me but i think i made around 330ft lbs on pump gas. CC said it looked like an "alignment" issue.. I 100% positively torqued correct numbers and sequence/pattern. My gsr trans has 50k miles on it and main shaft has no run out. Dowels are not damaged where trans wouldnt be seated all the way ect. What really baffles me is the other disc splines are ok meaning that clutch had to have been slipping when this happened correct?
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 03:55 PM
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How's the input shaft look?
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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I was wondering about the input shaft my self. just wow lol
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Old Sep 29, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Looking at another comp clutch, in for more info.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 06:06 AM
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Snapped a quick pic of the input shaft. This is a 50k mile old trans original to the car which started out bone stock 2yrs ago prior to the build.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 06:45 AM
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Looks like the input shaft wasn't fully inserted on the clutch discs. You 100% sure the installed height of the input shaft was correct in the trans? Maybe you had the outer plate or disc upside down.... just a thought. Look slike the clutch dragged a lot too. That heat ring on the friction material means it rubbed on something damn near all the time.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tepid1
Looks like the input shaft wasn't fully inserted on the clutch discs. You 100% sure the installed height of the input shaft was correct in the trans? Maybe you had the outer plate or disc upside down.... just a thought. Look slike the clutch dragged a lot too. That heat ring on the friction material means it rubbed on something damn near all the time.
The trans is stock and untouched. As far as plate placement, CC had them labeled with dummy stickers and I verified that upon removal. It basically wont work with anything backwards due to thickness so its hard to mess that up really. I'm stumped honestly..
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Competition clutch twin disc splines sheared...

another odd thing, both friction disc had dark rings like this one pictured..
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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I wouldn't put too much thought into the heat rings.
At the moment that the splines gave way and stripped out heat would have built up in just seconds so it's really no surprise to see the effects.

I'm not a clutch scientist, but after a few uses wouldn't it have done some self-aligning?
With 6500 miles it seems far fetched that it would be out of alignment.
On top of that, the black ring on the clutch material appears to be thin and concentric to the rest of the clutch.
Any idea how CC came to the conclusion that this might be alignment related?
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LOWLUDE22
Well apparently I spoke too soon last week about not having any issues lately. Car was making awful racket when trying to go into gear so I towed it to the shop. Once apart found the inner splines on the trans side friction disc completely sheared. Just curious if this is happening to anyone else. The clutch has 6500 miles at 500whp on street tires with three passes on slicks waaaay back when it was freshly built last year.
This happened to me last year, same issue.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
This happened to me last year, same issue.
did you come up with a reason why?
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Better shot of the input shaft now that it's out.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LOWLUDE22
did you come up with a reason why?
Competition Clutch is why haha... Stopped using their clutches years ago... they are fine if you need something cheap and are OK with issues.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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Been there.

I was told my lack of dowel pins was the culprit (small misalignment of the input shaft).
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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I doubt they are willing to tell you the alloy of metal and the treatments they make the hub from.
That would be great info to have right about now.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Competition clutch twin disc splines sheared...

Are you sure you had the right discs?

IIRC there's a small difference in input shaft size between hydro and cable trans, if you use the wrong spline style they eventually shear off like seen here.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Well, car is back together. Runs great and new plates feel way better. The rattle when the pedal is pressed is 1/4 of what it was before. I'm not sure if manufacturing process is different or redesigned but it's like an entirely different clutch now for whatever reason. I also had to replace the input shaft so hopefully things hold together this time. Only time will tell I guess
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Competition clutch twin disc splines sheared...

sooo... you bought 1 or 2 new disc?
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Moua
sooo... you bought 1 or 2 new disc?
i replaced both friction disc, reused both floater plate/metal disc.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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Any type of clutch chatter normally mean something wrong with installation, whether its misalignment or improper torque or sequence and should be addressed immediately.
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