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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Ive been hearing some weird clanking for the last few days so I crawled under to see what I could find and this is what I found

IM not exactly sure what it is I think its a lower control arm
1 of the 2 bolts that hold it in place?

the bolt is broken of and still in that loose arm

can I just get a grade 8 bolt from lowes and put back through?

how dangerous is this?
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:47 PM
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you are asking how dangerous a broken critical suspension bolt is?
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Well I'm unfamiliar with what it does,
I know it's critical just want to familiarize myself with its purpose and a proper fix
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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Well I'm unfamiliar with whatnot does,
I know it's critical just want to familiarize myself with its purpose
hardware store bolt isnt going to cut it, thats harder then a grade 8, I have a good local store that carries high strength bolts, but most places don't
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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your best bet is to order one from Honda, or better yet see if someone here has the correct flange bolt, as many people that have parts cars around, someone probably has one
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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What is that loose bar called ?
I see the strut or shock and it is attached, what is the name of that bar that goes to the side , looks like has some various rubber and is loose because of the broken bolt?

Keep in mind this is the front, not the rear
Ordering online won't work gotta big circle track race Saturday
I'm gonna hit the dealership up and see if they have one
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Is that the damper fork?
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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if you have a fastenal near you they MIGHT have a metric flange bolt in a grade 10 or 12, would probably be ok for the track, but I would never trust lowes or home depot hardware in my suspension
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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I do have a fastenal near me
Wouldn't the dealer have that bolt?

It's not the shock bolt it's a strange fork with rubber just hangin loose clanking

No telling how long it's been like that and raced
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Old Aug 27, 2014 | 07:55 PM
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are you sure its a bolt that goes in there and not a broken stud? go to a junkyard and grab another i just replaced mine today to add a front sway
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Civic Racer X 7
What is that loose bar called ?
I see the strut or shock and it is attached, what is the name of that bar that goes to the side , looks like has some various rubber and is loose because of the broken bolt?

Keep in mind this is the front, not the rear
Ordering online won't work gotta big circle track race Saturday
I'm gonna hit the dealership up and see if they have one
DO NOT DRIVE THIS CAR!! please be safe.. I'm not having a lot of drama, I'm being serious. The bolt that has sheared off is the bolt that keep the lower control arm halves together. These are two forged pieces that are bolted together. That's the other bar you're seeing hang there. That is a hefty/strong bolt to shear off, but I'd say a SAE grade 8 bolt (strongest that's out there), but since this is Honda, most likely metric would be your best idea and the strongest metric is a 12.9. A metric 10.9 would be safe. Fastenal would be able to help you determine what's safe, that's their engineering business! So ask them..

you can see the bolt location in this diagram..
http://cdn.revolutionparts.com/ill3....571&make=honda

it doesn't look like that bolt is available from Honda, they'll want you to buy the entire lower control arm. Fastenal would be a good place to go.

a link from rockauto showing an aftermarket beck/arnley forged front lower control arm, see the gold colored bolts? That's the one that sheared off.

http://www.rockauto.com/getimage/get...98-0&width=500

Also..I do not believe it's the sway/stabilizer bar, because that bar is on the top side of the lower control arm, it does not attach horizontally as this picture is showing.. definitely get this back together before driving it.

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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 05:01 AM
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I checked out the drivers side and on one end of this bolt there isnt a hex head

IM not sure WHAT this thing is
I know its important but im not sure where to start on fixing this
I do have a local junkyard with several of the same civics there
but I hate to purchase the entire piece when I could possibly fix it with a single bolt

If this thing does slide out how on earth do you tighten one side if the other side doesnt have a head on it?

really concerned because I have a dirt track race saturday and not sure how to fix this
wont be able to run if I dont get it fixed ASAP
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 05:07 AM
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the other end has a nut on it
( this is the good side)

the passenger side is sheared and half missing with the un hex head half still stuck in the now loose arm
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 07:07 AM
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Grade 8 bolts are standard thread/size. Thd bolts from honda are class 10.9 metric.

Do not confuse this. A class 8 metric bolt is significantly weaker than a SAE grade 8.

If you buy a grade 8 (SAE) bolt, that will work. Both, the grade 8 and metric 10.9 class bolts have ~130ksi yield strengths, IIRC. The 10.9 might be a touch higher, though.

You should be able to find a 10.9 class METRIC bolt. I think it's a M10x1.25 from the factory. Pair that with a matching nut.

That bolt holds the LCA halves together and is very critical.

From the factory, that is a pressed/knurled stud. So its self clinching once its tightened.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 07:38 AM
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do you have anyone near you who might have a parts car? or check the yard, at the moment that might be your best bet
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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A junkyard LCA is what, $30? Just ****** one up and be done with it. Make sure it has a swaybar mount.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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My junkyard charged $30 for both a arms and front gsr sway bar
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Yeah LKQ here in NC wanted to charge me $95 for a front sway bar and arms from a Civic EX. **** that noise, I walked off and left them.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 03:47 AM
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Will 96-00 civic control arm half
Fit my car?
It's a 94 hatch

Pretty sure 92-00 are about the same
Anyone confirm?

Or do I need 92-95 lower control arm half
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 07:09 AM
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You need a 94-01 integra/92-95 civic arm.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by B serious
You need a 94-01 integra/92-95 civic arm.
guy on here is parting a 94 del sol, is it the same control arm?
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Got one from 4 door coupe
93 model

Why does the replacement from the 4 door have this extra
Notch???
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Civic Racer X 7
Got one from 4 door coupe
93 model

Why does the replacement from the 4 door have this extra
Notch???
I think the one on top is what you're talking about from the 4DR 93 civic. That extra hole is for the sway bar links to attach to the lower control arm. I had sent that in the links I replied to earlier in this thread.
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Old Aug 30, 2014 | 04:11 AM
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Ok, sounds like it will work on my car and I'll just have that extra notch empty
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