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Old Aug 4, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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Here's the problem I'm having. My civic started to overheat at low speeds. It then started misfiring and threw a code for cylinder 1 misfire (71). My coolant was low when I checked it. I have water in my coolant system and not antifreeze. I don't see any signs of oil in the coolant system. I checked the oil and it seems like its a thinner consistency then normal. I tried to bleed the air out of my coolant system. When I started up the car coolant shot out of the radiator. I read on another post this was a sign of a bad head gasket. I plan on compression testing the coolant system in the morning when the auto parts stores open to test for any leaks. I do not see any visible leaks without compression testing it. I am pretty sure I have a blown head gasket but would like any advice on how to tell before I go ripping the head off. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 12:43 AM
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Water.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 03:08 AM
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How do you know its not distilled water and he's from Mexico Markus?

OP, try looking down the spark plug tubes with em removed. If the pistons are clean, thats an easy way to tell. There's no way a Honda piston would be clean, they enjoy burning oil very much.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 05:47 AM
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Ok so here's what I have done and found. I went to NAPA and bought a block tester. The color changed from blue to green so it's picking up a leak. Not good. I guess it's time for a head gasket change. Going to pick up an OEM head gasket, ARP head studs, and get the head milled.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 06:29 AM
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Ok so here's what I have done and found. I went to NAPA and bought a block tester. The color changed from blue to green so it's picking up a leak. Not good. I guess it's time for a head gasket change. Going to pick up an OEM head gasket, ARP head studs, and get the head milled.
did your engine burn oil? You may want to have new valve seals installed while you're doing everything else, makes life easier but makes your wallet a little bit sadder
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 06:52 AM
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Yeah you better get that done asap, and use coolant and not water.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 06:56 AM
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I haven't noticed it burning any oil. I was going to inspect the valve seals for leaks when I take the head off.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:00 AM
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Yeah you better get that done asap, and use coolant and not water.
Yeah I know better than to use water. I got sloppy. I'm ordering all the parts today. Talked to the machine shop. They are going to charge me $50 to mill the head and to make sure the head isn't twisted and causing the valves not to seat.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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See how much it is for them to pressure test the head... could be worth peace of mind (and if it fails, would save you much headache).
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:48 AM
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See how much it is for them to pressure test the head... could be worth peace of mind (and if it fails, would save you much headache).
Will do. Good advice.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:54 AM
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Yes pressure test the hell out of that head. If it checks out, replace valve guides and seals, mill head etc. I would also use a dealer head gasket, and spray cooper permatrix on head gasket before installing. I would even go as far has ordering new head bolts from the dealer. Use honda blue coolant with distilled water. Also add a new dealer thermostat. If your going to do something do it right the first time.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Ok parts have been ordered. I got an OEM head gasket. I'll have it tomorrow. I ordered ARP head studs. They should be here in two days. I didn't want to pay $30+ for overnight shipping. I got a new OEM cam seal. Mine leaks a little bit. Since I'm pulling the cam out for the machine shop to mill the head I'm going to go ahead and replace that. The Honda dealer has valve seals in stock if i end up needing to replace them. Should have the head off this afternoon and to the machine shop.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Metrotech50
Yes pressure test the hell out of that head. If it checks out, replace valve guides and seals, mill head etc. I would also use a dealer head gasket, and spray cooper permatrix on head gasket before installing. I would even go as far has ordering new head bolts from the dealer. Use honda blue coolant with distilled water. Also add a new dealer thermostat. If your going to do something do it right the first time.
I have a fairly new OEM thermostat installed right already.

Is copper spray really necessary on a fairly stock y8?

I was just going to inspect the valve seals and guides after I pulled off the head and replace them if needed? Should I go ahead and do that if the head is still good?

I'm going to be using ARP head studs instead of OEM head bolts.
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