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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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Default 01 Acura TL seats into 98 Civic Help?

I found a sweet set of Acura TL seats (leather, power, heated) for $50. So I had to buy them!

Now I am faced with the nightmare of getting them into my civic. they are SO CLOSE to bolting right on... Is it easier to fab mounts or to cut new holes?

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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:45 AM
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Best to fab the mounts, rather have a secured seat than no secured seat.
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Mounts, don't cut holes in your car.
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I swear someone posted something about this.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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It was probably for the CL seats.
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Dem Acura leathers doe!
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Default Re: 01 Acura TL seats into 98 Civic Help?

Originally Posted by grumblemarc
I swear someone posted something about this.
Originally Posted by tony_2018
It was probably for the CL seats.
Yep, that was me, and that was for CL-S seats.

OP, take a picture of the bottom of the seat and post it. I might be able to help you. Also, if you're good with a soldering iron, I might be able to help you wire them in, too.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Yep, that was me
Dude. Make them consolidate all your old posts with your new username.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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I've talked to a mod about it before, it's just a righteous pain in the urethra. That's why I consolidated it all into my build thread. There's links and write-ups galore in there.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:17 PM
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I've talked to a mod about it before, it's just a righteous pain in the urethra. That's why I consolidated it all into my build thread. There's links and write-ups galore in there.
After much laborious searching, i found your thread! So helpful!!!
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/01-03-cl-seats-ej6-8-a-3122006/

Is it crazy hard to wire up the heated seats? Cuz I was thinking about just wiring the power and not worry about heat, I live in Mississippi anyways.

Ill post pics in a bit...
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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Heres pics, let me know if you need more. Or better ones...
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
Yep, that was me, and that was for CL-S seats.

OP, take a picture of the bottom of the seat and post it. I might be able to help you. Also, if you're good with a soldering iron, I might be able to help you wire them in, too.
Oh and BTW i am a bit handy with a soldering gun
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Those rails look to be exactly the same as my CL-S rails. You should be able to follow my write-up to the tee for the physical install.

The wiring for heat is actually dead simple. You'll just need the switch, and a couple of relays. There are multiple OEM switches out there, but anything from 96-00 from a Civic or CRV should be simple to use. IIRC the one I'm using is from a CDM CRV. I like it because instead of being two separate buttons, it's two buttons on one body. Looks like this



The wiring for the power functions is a royal pain in the ***. You'll need either the complete wiring harness out of the donor car, plus multiple EC boxes, or a small pile of relays, a distribution block, some wire, and a soldering setup. I went with the relays and solder method. If you want to make the power work, just let me know, and I can dig through my old notes and see if I can remember how I wired everything.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 05:38 PM
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Those rails look to be exactly the same as my CL-S rails. You should be able to follow my write-up to the tee for the physical install.

The wiring for heat is actually dead simple. You'll just need the switch, and a couple of relays. There are multiple OEM switches out there, but anything from 96-00 from a Civic or CRV should be simple to use. IIRC the one I'm using is from a CDM CRV. I like it because instead of being two separate buttons, it's two buttons on one body. Looks like this



The wiring for the power functions is a royal pain in the ***. You'll need either the complete wiring harness out of the donor car, plus multiple EC boxes, or a small pile of relays, a distribution block, some wire, and a soldering setup. I went with the relays and solder method. If you want to make the power work, just let me know, and I can dig through my old notes and see if I can remember how I wired everything.
Yeah I NEED the power to work, its a 2dr so there is no way to get in the back if the power dont work.

I am a wiring novice, I hardly even know what a relay is haha. But i THINK i have the OEM harnesses.

Ill work on the rails tomorrow and then we can worry about wiring
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I mean the OEM harness from the donor car, the Acura TL. The amount of stuff from the TL that you would need to make it work is kind of crazy, and quite honestly, I don't even know how to make it work 100% that way.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Default Re: 01 Acura TL seats into 98 Civic Help?

Originally Posted by NotARacist
I mean the OEM harness from the donor car, the Acura TL. The amount of stuff from the TL that you would need to make it work is kind of crazy, and quite honestly, I don't even know how to make it work 100% that way.
ok, Im not sure if I have that. The guy who pulled them from the donor car cut all the wires; he didnt pull any of the connectors out, but cut the wires PAST the connectors, so I have both sides of all the connectors. Not sure if that helps any...

Also, unlike in the write up, I found it interesting when messing with them earlier that the seatbelts dont fit. So I already swapped the holsters(?) which was easy enough.
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Old Aug 1, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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Default Re: 01 Acura TL seats into 98 Civic Help?

If you're not interested in the seat heaters, then wiring up the power seat functions should be straightforward. All diagrams I post here and below are taken from the 2004 Acura TL service manual:
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ok, Im not sure if I have that. The guy who pulled them from the donor car cut all the wires; he didnt pull any of the connectors out, but cut the wires PAST the connectors, so I have both sides of all the connectors. Not sure if that helps any...

Also, unlike in the write up, I found it interesting when messing with them earlier that the seatbelts dont fit. So I already swapped the holsters(?) which was easy enough.
Yeah, if the guy just cut on the other side of the plugs, then you won't have the harness. Given RonJ's post, though...

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
If you're not interested in the seat heaters, then wiring up the power seat functions should be straightforward.
...it's entirely possible that the TL seats you want to use are a LOT easier than the CL-S seats. Apply power and ground to the right leads, and you should be good. The CL-S seats have all sorts of other memory functions and ****, so I had to hardwire the switches to relays, and pass the motors through them in a specific way.
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Going by the diagrams posted it does look simple. Gonna bookmark this if I ever find tan leather seats.
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
If you're not interested in the seat heaters, then wiring up the power seat functions should be straightforward.
Ron,

Requesting pics of heat seats diagram for the same make/model. Please.
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 04:25 AM
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Well now I have a problem. The guy I got these from said they were from a 2001, but the headrests on it did not come on the TL, CL, or CL-S of 2001. Is there an easy way to identify what year and model a seat came from? I have heard the wiring for these between 2001 and 2003 changed quite a bit...
Also, mine has the manual lumbar support on the driver seat and none on the passenger... is this like yours Notaracist?
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 05:46 AM
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Here is some pics of the wiring... look familiar?
First two pics are of drivers side, second 2 are of passenger. Looks like 10 pins on the passenger side and a **** ton on the drivers (for power that is). Looks like the heat runs through separate connectors
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I assume you don't plan to install the TL rear seat. Below are general TL front seat diagrams.
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General TL front seat diagrams (cont.)
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Ron,

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