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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 09:20 AM
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My b18b1 build and swap


Sup guys hows it going. Now this is my first motor rebuild iv ever done but ive been dealing with Honda's most of my life. My furst car was a prelude then an interga then civic then integra again then i bought an eg for my build. Now ive been having a b18b1 obd2 in my garage so i decided i would build it and swap it and take out the little d series in the car out... so heres my build

b18b1 bored and decked wiseco pistons for turbo setup 81.50mm 9.5:1 comp
eagle rods
brian crower stage 2 turbo on cams (stock cam pulleys i know i know....)
dc sports header 4-2-1
CAI
MSD exterior coil with blaster coil ss with the spci msd box
head was also redone n surfaced but sock with springs and retainers ARP head studs
other than that coilovers w/ springs skunk2
skunk 2 mega power exhaust
oh and a chipped ECU P28


So i put it all in new motor mounts filled with polyurithane silicon even got the civic back mount new and filled also. now for the wiring i used the Integra harness Integra dizzy, alternator, the harness plugs into the shock towers. Plugged in my ecu wired my ignition used break in oil and my precious project will crank but will not turn on EEEEEMMMMMIIIILLLIIIIOOOOO lolz. so o then decided to check for fuel and spark.
lostened the fuel filter bolt and nothing so i primed and primed again because i could hear the click and the fuel pump until viola gas came squirting into my face lol not really since i only loostened the bolt but u get the picture. nesxt was spark i took the spark plug out put the wire boot on the plucg and no spark again i was like EEEEEMMMMMIIILLLIIIIOOOO. so then i said F@!#$ msd and went back to stock thested for spark and YESSS nice white spark. took the valve cover off checked timing on the head and the lines on the head cam gears line up and the motor was at TDC wehn cam gears where lined up rotor was also positioned at No 1 piston. I cranked again and nothing so i put some carb cleaner in the intake to get things going it started but then died at this point i checked plugs again but its not wet at least not flooded wet. so how can i check my injectors they are stock i dont have a volt meter or that injector light test thingy (lolz sorry for the bad description of the injector test thingy). so now im at a lost dont really know the best next course of action.....
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Rent a niod light set at a local auto parts store. That will check your injectors.

Watch Night at the Roxbury much?

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...ntifier=948078

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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 09:48 AM
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http://pichost.me/1870882/

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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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Watch Night at the Roxbury much?
lulz was just tryin to be funny thanx for the tip will do
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Not a one of your picture links work, because you used the wrong link, and not a one of them is relevant. Buy a voltmeter. If you have the money to build an engine, you have the money to buy a voltmeter. There's no excuse to not have one in your tool bag.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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Not a one of your picture links work, because you used the wrong link, and not a one of them is relevant. Buy a voltmeter. If you have the money to build an engine, you have the money to buy a voltmeter. There's no excuse to not have one in your tool bag.
Or pick one up for free at Harbor Freight, NO PURCHASE NECESSARY!



http://www.dealsoff.com/harbor-freight-coupons/
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Or pick one up for free at Harbor Freight, NO PURCHASE NECESSARY!



http://www.dealsoff.com/harbor-freight-coupons/

how the heck do you guys find these things nice looks like thats were im headed
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rickytikki
To post a picture you need to click on the image icon on the bottom row. 4th icon from the left starting with the insert hyperlink icon of the globe. Or the 14th option on the bottom row from left to right.

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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 12:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h3x...ature=youtu.be
A more detailed video
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 12:50 PM
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Default Re: EG cranks but won't start

also i have a gsr oil pump and water pump gsr timing beslt
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 12:51 PM
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thanks again guys any sugestion would be great
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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You didn't listen to the people telling you what to do to diagnose the problem, and you aren't listening to the people who have told you how to properly post a picture. Do the tests, or you aren't going to get any help.
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Default Re: EG cranks but won't start

wouldnt a volt meter tell me the same thing a light diode would but with voltage?
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A test light would be like using a sledge hammer for a trim nail. Way too blunt, way too imprecise. A voltmeter will tell you exactly what's going on. You can get one for FREE. There is absolutely no excuse to not have one.
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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k i go the light diode cranked the motor no lights whatsoever checked fusees with volt meter most read 12.75 volts could it be my ecu if so how can i check it?
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
A test light would be like using a sledge hammer for a trim nail. Way too blunt, way too imprecise. A voltmeter will tell you exactly what's going on. You can get one for FREE. There is absolutely no excuse to not have one.
i posted a link to my youtube channel if you clicked on the link i said the volts are jumping but in the .023 range which means to me no power to the injectors.....
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Post it up HERE.
No one wants to keep going back and forth between here and Youtube.
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 04:12 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 04:25 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 04:36 PM
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Well, your timing is off, for one.

You also don't show you actually testing for voltage. With the key to ON(II), you should have constant power to one of the wires in each injector pigtail. The ECU uses the ground to control injector pulse.
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
Well, your timing is off, for one.

You also don't show you actually testing for voltage. With the key to ON(II), you should have constant power to one of the wires in each injector pigtail. The ECU uses the ground to control injector pulse.
well im running a gsr oil and gsr water pump also a gsr blelt with bigger cams with stock ls cam gears. they have more teeth... i expected it to be slightly off until i get aftermarket cams gears...
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Old Jul 26, 2014 | 05:52 PM
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LS, GSR, and ITR water pumps are all the same part number. Your oil pump is irrelevant - the gear doesn't attach to the oil pump, it attaches to the crank. Are you using the wrong cog? It doesn't look like a "mixing and matching parts" issue, it looks like a "your exhaust cam is off by a full tooth" problem.
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