Is my HP goal attainable?
So my whole goal with this setup is 500 WHP.
Here is the setup.
81.5 mm bore (.020 overbore)
.002 off block / .002 off head
.004 PTW clearance
All mains .0016-.0020
All rods .0015-.0018
Top ring gaps .018
Bottom gap .024
Head- B16A
Integra GSR cams
Skunk2 adj cam gears
Supertech turbo dual valve springs
Supertech std intake valves
Supertech exhaust valves
Supertech titanium retainers / keepers
Hondata IM gasket
Block- B16A
Manley H-beam rods
CP 10.5:1 pistons
ACL race bearings ( used mostly standard sizes but rods 2 and 3 required ACL oversize bearings)
ARP 2000 rod bolts
ARP head studs
Cometic .030 head gasket
Baffled oil pan
Victor X IM
Skunk 2 70mm TB
Speedfactory 4Bar Map
1000cc Injectors
Walboro 255
AEM Fuel Rail
Stock FPR
3" IC Piping (ALL THE WAY AROUND)
Tial 50mm BOV
Mishimoto FMIC
BWR Ramhorn Mani
Tial 38mm MVS Wastegate
Garrett GT35R .63 A/R EX Housing
2.5" Up Pipe
P28 ECU on Neptune
STOCK GSR Transmission
Stage 4 CC
Is my goal unrealistic? Anything I should change/upgrade. First build ever. Any input appreciated. Plan to tune on E85
Here is the setup.
81.5 mm bore (.020 overbore)
.002 off block / .002 off head
.004 PTW clearance
All mains .0016-.0020
All rods .0015-.0018
Top ring gaps .018
Bottom gap .024
Head- B16A
Integra GSR cams
Skunk2 adj cam gears
Supertech turbo dual valve springs
Supertech std intake valves
Supertech exhaust valves
Supertech titanium retainers / keepers
Hondata IM gasket
Block- B16A
Manley H-beam rods
CP 10.5:1 pistons
ACL race bearings ( used mostly standard sizes but rods 2 and 3 required ACL oversize bearings)
ARP 2000 rod bolts
ARP head studs
Cometic .030 head gasket
Baffled oil pan
Victor X IM
Skunk 2 70mm TB
Speedfactory 4Bar Map
1000cc Injectors
Walboro 255
AEM Fuel Rail
Stock FPR
3" IC Piping (ALL THE WAY AROUND)
Tial 50mm BOV
Mishimoto FMIC
BWR Ramhorn Mani
Tial 38mm MVS Wastegate
Garrett GT35R .63 A/R EX Housing
2.5" Up Pipe
P28 ECU on Neptune
STOCK GSR Transmission
Stage 4 CC
Is my goal unrealistic? Anything I should change/upgrade. First build ever. Any input appreciated. Plan to tune on E85
With that large of a turbo and GSR camshafts, he's more than good. True, there are better camshafts, but what he's got will work just fine .
that's predicting a problem that hasn't happened yet. It all depends upon what boost pressure he's going to go with. In his case , about 18-20psi for 500whp, but yeah... could become an issue depending upon timing and boost control.
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Ever since tepid pointed it out.
Umm sure..that's fine.. I never discounted the fact that retarded tuning control was is a factor.. but it was actually my good friend Tony L reminded me of that factor, in conjunction with proper boost control systems.
This setup is fine for 500whp. I, personally, would leave the GSR cams. When you start getting into aggressive cams then you need to start thinking about a better block. Keep it simple and keep it fun. Aggressive cam ramp rates will only lead to more harm then good in a stock rocker setup. Just my opinion.
The housing doesn't have much to do with it as you think. Its the fact that its a turbocharger that has an airflow rate of over 61lbs/min at 2.0 pressure ratios.
There are people way before me that pointed it out as well. Who cares?
This setup is fine for 500whp. I, personally, would leave the GSR cams. When you start getting into aggressive cams then you need to start thinking about a better block. Keep it simple and keep it fun. Aggressive cam ramp rates will only lead to more harm then good in a stock rocker setup. Just my opinion.
This setup is fine for 500whp. I, personally, would leave the GSR cams. When you start getting into aggressive cams then you need to start thinking about a better block. Keep it simple and keep it fun. Aggressive cam ramp rates will only lead to more harm then good in a stock rocker setup. Just my opinion.
although i guess technically i am speculating mind you...seeing as how i dont have a gt35r...perhaps some people i used to run with would know from personal experience..
The area ratios for the stock GT35R haven't changed in almost 20 years. The look may seem different (some had ported shrouds, some were Precision covers, etc), but even if it was altered to have a T04E cover, in this instance, it would make no significant difference at such low speeds for the GT35R to make power.
looks fine to me. im lower compression than you but on an hx35 mine makes 481 on 20 pounds of boost with gsr cams. but i am on an ls bottom end rather than a b16.
actually, the reason i was thinking it may be a problem was because i had to upgrade from a 38mm to a 44mm to prevent my t3/60-1 from spiking uncontrollably. i did a google search on a gt35r and a few of the first ones i looked at had larger compressor housings, so i figured it was possible it could produce more boost/hp while requiring less exhaust gas to drive the .63 side..
although i guess technically i am speculating mind you...seeing as how i dont have a gt35r...perhaps some people i used to run with would know from personal experience..
although i guess technically i am speculating mind you...seeing as how i dont have a gt35r...perhaps some people i used to run with would know from personal experience..
And that a larger compressor housing doesn't mean that it will make more "boost/hp", right?
Your words.... not mine.
It's all in the tune. Managing cylinder pressure is the key to keeping it alive. ROC (rate of change(in cylinder pressure)) is the reason for failure.
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Last edited by tepid1; Jul 8, 2014 at 04:08 PM.
additionally, would you guys run that top ring at that, or open it up to around .020?
i would not run any rod bearing at or less than .0015, ive seen some get worn pretty good around there, maybe try and get them up to around .0017-.002, again just me
while you are correct, id still feel like its great insurance when you are already spending many thousands of dollars.... just my .02
additionally, would you guys run that top ring at that, or open it up to around .020?
i would not run any rod bearing at or less than .0015, ive seen some get worn pretty good around there, maybe try and get them up to around .0017-.002, again just me
additionally, would you guys run that top ring at that, or open it up to around .020?
i would not run any rod bearing at or less than .0015, ive seen some get worn pretty good around there, maybe try and get them up to around .0017-.002, again just me
It's a good rule of thumb.
Additionally, it really depends on the fuel being used as to how to gap the rings.
Thanks for all the input. Is there a way to tag someone in a thread like on facebook? Haha. I know my tuner is on here and would like to hear his thoughts. Its Mikey from Profunction. Believe his username is MikeySpec
dont be a dick dude.



