Can someone explain what ITE class means for SCCA? I dont have a " GCR" rule book and a copy of the "ITE" regualtion. Thanks.

 

shaggy...improved touring-E

 

"E"?

 

its a less restrictive open engine class, i think its run regionally under regional supplementary rules, so each region may be different. its not in the gcr.

 

I think it originally started in the Mid-Atlantic (could be wrong here) as a place for out-of-date Ferrari Challenge cars to run. You also see a lot of ex-World Challenge cars in this class. It's a little bit of a catch-all class. Out of date T1 and T2 cars run there too.

Basically it's ITExpensive.

-Matt

Edit - fat fingers


[Modified by I SAY EH, 7:39 AM 10/31/2002]

 

I have done some research on it, since it would probably be a place I could race my car in the future if I ever go that route.

From what I have seen, it isnt an open engine class, but a class where cars that used to run in other series like World Challenge, Firehawk, IMSA, Grandam cup, PCA, BMWCC , can race.
"The purpose of the ITE class is to allow cars from professionally organized series that competed on DOT tires a place to compete at a regional level. Cars that are eligible may not be equal to each other in a competitive nature but will be able to compete in a single ITE class"

http://www.neohio-scca.org/clubracin...ring_e_ite.htm

Evan

 

In SCCA ClubRacing, there are "National", "Regional-only" and (for lack of a better term) "Region-Specific" classes.

National classes run under nation-wide rules and appear at the SCCA RunOffs (the national championships). Regional-only classes (like Improved Touring S, A, B and C) run to rules published by the national office but run only at regional events.

ITE is a region-specific class. Regions are allowed to write rules that apply only to races that they sanction, to accommodate local drivers - and there are a lot of them: Legends, stock cars, SPO, SPU, RS, Spec7, IT7, Spec Miata (started this way, now a true Regional class), GTPinto, Club Ford, Club S2, CP ("conference production" in the Northwest), ITD, ITGT, (hopefully) IT2 or Touring Lite* soon, and ITE.

Something called ITE happens in a number of regions BUT the rules differ depending on where you are. In some places, ITE is supposed to be a home for orphan pro racing cars with steel bodies, like elgorey describes. In other places, the interpretation is (by the rules or de facto action of drivers and tech people) more liberal. ITE in the Northwest has become a playground for some outta hand Porsches that have never seen another series, for example.

Consult the region in which you intend to run before you do anything!

Kirk

* More to come on this one - stay tuned!

 

ITE = Improved Touring Enduro.

Any car classified in an "endurance racing series" on DOT tires ie IMSA, WC, Grand-am Cup, USAC, Motorola cup etc etc etc.

Its regional so some SCCA regions dont recognise it or use P1/P2 classes instead.

 

The reason I asked, was because I emailed a regional person from so cal. And asked him what class I would be in if I had a ITR swap in my 92 EH, and he said:

"You need a" GCR" rule book and a copy of the "ITE" regualtions. Your car will
run in ITE , You must have a complete cage prepped to the ITCS regs found in the
GCR and a fuel cell . From there its your decision what you do to the car. Its
wide open

Neely"

So SCCA is only for towed race cars? Guess open track is the only way to go then.

 

"So SCCA is only for towed race cars? Guess open track is the only way to go then."

Huh?

 

ITE does not require fuel cells. World Challenge does not require fuel cells.

However, if your region does not have ITE, then you will have to run SPU/SPO, which DOES require a fuel cell, not to mention, you'll be run over by some seriously fast machinery. Even more so than in ITE.

Warren

 

"Huh?"

Yeah I couldnt drive with a fuel cell and 6-point roll cage around town.

 

Correct sir. SBW brought his WC Corvette to the last National and whopped up on them. It was amazing to watch. Something like 56 cars in the field, Scotty started in the back. He moved up 16 spots on the first lap, another 20 on the second, and was leading by about the 6th or 7th lap.
Here's a few ITE examples:

 

Well I guess the person I talked to at SCCA doesnt know **** then.

 

What? You didn’t know? At every SCCA event they check to make sure you are towing your racecar. If you don’t, they don’t let you in through the gate. It’s a simple yet effective rule to weed out the pretenders from the real $erious racers. But don’t try to cheat the system because when you do get caught, it’s ugly… I’ve seen with my own eyes what they did to someone who tried to sneak in a non-towed racecar. It’s real ugly… (disclaimer: joking of course )

And I remember PD entered once his Realtime NSX in ITE a few years back. I don’t remember the track, but I do remember that he did get the ITE track record.

 

Im just saying the only class they told me I could be in was ITE, it was a JOKE about the ******* towing the damn race cars to the track. **** stop taking everything so serious in life.

 

SpoonSportsEH2, take no offense when I say this but if you do plan on racing an ITR motored something in ITE, PS[x], SU, SPU - you really should have up to the absolute limit of safety equipment, not the minimal amount to get in the door. The speeds of the cars around you (if not you yourself immediately) will be exceptionally fast and for that alone, I'd want the absolute maximum.

As for the SCCA being a tow-only organization, well, lets just say that if most people tow, they learned that there is a good reason to have a trailer with you when you go racing but it certainly isn't a requirement.

Best of luck.

Edit: just read above (simultaneous posting). Alex, he's right, you are WAY too serious about life. I mean lighten up, eat your manicotti and make a joke of something from time to time


[Modified by phat-S, 5:00 PM 10/31/2002]

 

I'm sorry to everyone I have offended and/or scarred for life. I will rethink my view on life and take it a little less seriously from now on. Again I apologize to both you phat s and SpoonSports. Can we be friends now?

SpoonSports, I just hope that by taking your advice I was able to set an example. A lot of the time, following our own advice is beneficial, too.

edit: added the cute little quote of the day.


[Modified by Hracer, 5:12 PM 10/31/2002]

 

scca is crazy, every civic with a itr swap and brake kit have to run in ITE, which run with GT class together(most of them have 300over hp). and also require many stuff. fuel cell is a must. my friend ran in ite before and imo it is stupid.

 

The Cal Club (CSCC) ITE rules require fuel cells. You can find the rules at http://www.calclub.com/reg_rules/ite.pdf. I don't agree with the requirement for this particular class, but they've been known to make one-time exceptions to help someone get started. The rules are pretty liberal beyond that.

Some people think that many SCCA rules/classes are too restrictive, but keep in mind that for most SCCA classes you can run an SCCA road race anywhere in the country and the rules will be consistent and enforced. You can't do that with many other racing organizations.

I've got my issues with some of the SCCA's chosen directions, but by and large, it's a great organization. If you really want to see how you'll stack up against other drivers in similar equipment, then the SCCA is probably a great choice. If you want to build some type of hybrid mongrel that's unique to you, then another organization might be better. Give the SCCA credit for providing enough latitude for individual regions to create classes that will allow just about any safely built car to run.

 

What's more crazy?

SCCA classifying cars with non-OE motors and brake systems in classes where they will run with other like cars.

OR

People building cars with non-OE motors and brake systems and being upset they are Club Racing against OTHER cars rediculously overprepped for ITS/A/B/C?

Actually, find me any organization that doesn't put hybrids in an Unlimited or Overprepped class.

 

Depends on region. WDCR-SCCA does not require them.

What is stupid about providing a place for orphaned racecars to play? ITE was never intended to be a national level class with a level playing field. It was intended to be a region specific class for cars that fall outside the boundaries of the other classes (read Knestis' post). If your buddy didn't want to race faster cars, he should have built his car to a different ruleset.

 

well, the stupid thing is that they put everything unlimit together. does it make sense? 1.8 unlimit will never be competable with 2.0+ turbo/na unlimit car. why bother? look at other place, like class 2/N+ in many place, all car are unlimit, but there will be rule about hp, size of engine, weight, size of tire, drive mode and so on. take a look at the FIA rule.

 

btw, i am not saying scca is stupid to have ite class(well, its the place to take crazy cars to test out), but i just mean its pointless to take a hybrid honda/light tuned honda to ite class, because there will be no match to other 3-500hp car. imo, u can't get anything from it, u just run alone with your own pace and very dangerous when those cars lap u and pass u. i saw that in person(in BW, i dunno in other place).


[Modified by spoon_ek9, 12:28 AM 11/1/2002]

 

By design, an unlimited class *can not* possibly guarantee you "competitiveness". How can it? It is unlimited where just about anything goes. That means all the cars can potentially be vastly different. If an equal playing field is desired, then build a car for a specific "normal" class according to its rules. The words "equal" or the like just can not go hand in hand the words "unlimited" or the like.