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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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Hey guys im doing a clutch on my car. And do you guys know what size that pin is? What do you guys use to hit it out? ( the one that holds the shift linkage to tranny )

Also when you guys take out the tranny. What do you use to lower it to the floor a jack? Or a shop crane?

And do you guys think it will be safe to do this. I have a car port ( its like a garage but only a roof overhead and the rest is open. I have these wooden beams running across the top of the roof. You think it would be safe to make a make-shift crane kinda thing. How much does the tranny weigh?


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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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A transmission weighs about 85 lbs, dry. Add a couple pounds wet maybe.

I think a floor jack would be fine to lower the transmission. Since I have a shop crane I would probably use that, but all you really need to do is get it out of the way so you can get to work on the flywheel bolts (that is the only hard part of removal).

For installation the problem you will run into is getting the transmission back onto the engine. For one, it is heavy and awkward, and secondly it has to be lined up very precisely or it will refuse to go on. You will see what I mean. I think a helping hand would make the entire project much easier.

For the linkage pin, you can reuse it so don't worry about it's size. To hit it out I use a spare suspension bolt with a tapered end and hammer on it. Then I finish it off with a smaller spare bolt that is large enough to fit in the pin hole but also catch on the pin. Using this approach I can remove the pin in 3-5 minutes without any real difficulty, as long as there is room to swing a hammer.

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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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I use a bolt that holds the AC compressor on. It's the perfect size to drive it straight up thru. and it's long
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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I think that is the bolt I use after starting it with the LCA bolt.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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it's honestly easier to take the whole engine out if you don't have AC/PS/TQ mounts I can't even imagine doing the flywheel with it in the car. However for the bitch pin use a good 4lb hammer vs a standard one made things SO much easier. The trans is indeed awkward again with an extremely low car(mine) it makes it near impossible to get it high enough to be underneath with the trans.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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A transmission weighs about 85 lbs, dry. Add a couple pounds wet maybe.

I think a floor jack would be fine to lower the transmission. Since I have a shop crane I would probably use that, but all you really need to do is get it out of the way so you can get to work on the flywheel bolts (that is the only hard part of removal).

For installation the problem you will run into is getting the transmission back onto the engine. For one, it is heavy and awkward, and secondly it has to be lined up very precisely or it will refuse to go on. You will see what I mean. I think a helping hand would make the entire project much easier.

For the linkage pin, you can reuse it so don't worry about it's size. To hit it out I use a spare suspension bolt with a tapered end and hammer on it. Then I finish it off with a smaller spare bolt that is large enough to fit in the pin hole but also catch on the pin. Using this approach I can remove the pin in 3-5 minutes without any real difficulty, as long as there is room to swing a hammer.

Here's a photo montage showing what I'm talking about:


thanks. so i have to buy new pin?

And also

Thats why it would be better when installing it to have a shop crane right? So i can be able to move it around and adjust so it will go on right.

So what would you advise to do if i am using a floor jack. Jack it then have someone from the top of the car pick it up and try to adjust it? Ive taken a tranny out before, but never installed it back, because was parting out the car. So just want some tips and advice on how to install it.


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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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no, you can re-use the "bitch" pin.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 09:39 AM
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i bought one of these:

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somewhat mickey mouse but it did help to ease it back on the engine.
renting a quality trans jack might be a better idea.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 10:38 AM
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when i replaced my auto tranny I did it by myself in the driveway with a floor jack and jack stands. use wood to support the tranny makes it easier to lift it higher into place and it is a pain in the *** to get it to line up to the block haha i had to move it around t different angles, lower it down push it back up all kinds of ****. I havent felt that happy in a long time when I got that ****** bolted back on haha
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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I used an AC compressor bolt (long 12mm head bolt) to remove the bitch pin. Or a punch.

Now I use an air hammer and a punch instead of struggling. It takes about 0.000000001 seconds to remove it via air hammer. BrrrAaaaap.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 07:08 AM
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I used an AC compressor bolt (long 12mm head bolt) to remove the bitch pin. Or a punch.

Now I use an air hammer and a punch instead of struggling. It takes about 0.000000001 seconds to remove it via air hammer. BrrrAaaaap.
yes definitely use the air conditioner bolt. i even took my grinder and made a little flat lip at the tip of the bolt to help have the bitch pin sit on it. i usually hold the pin with the vice grips, and a few quick whacks with my 5lb sledge it comes out no probs.

the trans isnt too heavy, as said less than 100 lbs. its just clumsy. i usually slide it on the ground under where it has to go and lift it up in place from above. i kinda lay over the fender and just pick it up and slide it on, then get the 2 top bolts in quickly so the whole weight of it is not resting on the input shaft.

if you take one of the long motor mount bolts and put in it the threads on the front of the trans for that mount it makes a nice handle to grab on to
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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i'm thinking you could hang a come-along from the ceiling and lift it that way.
beats fumbling around with the floor jack or taxing the old spinal cord.
then you wouldnt have to worry about stressing the shaft either.
damn wish i'd thought of that about 3 years ago.
with the jack underneath you could lower it to the right height if it wasnt lining up quite right.

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