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A/C button light won't illuminate and compressor won't turn

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Old May 28, 2014 | 01:48 AM
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Been having problems with my climate control unit. First the blower would blow only on high. Fixed that, now a/c won't kick in when I push the a/c button.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 03:09 AM
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Must be talking about a Ford.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 03:53 AM
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Must be talking about a Ford.
My bad. 1995 Honda civic lx eg8
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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Original A/C system? Stock Civic?
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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Have you used a manifold gauge kit to check your high and low pressures?
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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Yes its all original bone stock. I haven't tested it with that. I just hit the a/c switch and noticed it doesn't engage. The light don't even turn on. I tried moving the a/c clutch but it seems locked up.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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For future reference, the information you are now adding should have been included in your first post.

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I just hit the a/c switch and noticed it doesn't engage. The light don't even turn on.
Voltage test fuse 13.

I tried moving the a/c clutch but it seems locked up.
Details - With the A/C belt removed?
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Old May 28, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Yes I apologize for that don't know why I didn't. I will check that fuse. Yes I took the belt off and tried turning it. The clutch that is. So could it be busted? Don't know why it would cause the light not to work?.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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I will check that fuse.
If blown or removed, the fuse could explain why the A/C button light fails to turn on.

Yes I took the belt off and tried turning it. The clutch that is. So could it be busted?
Sounds like the pulley bearing is seized.

Don't know why it would cause the light not to work?.
Separate problem.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Okay so if its seized then its best to just replace the compressor? Is this caused by just normal wear and tear of age?.
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Okay so if its seized then its best to just replace the compressor?
You may only need to replace the compressor clutch and pulley, if you are unable to turn the pulley. If you are unable to turn the clutch armature plate, however, the compressor itself is seized and would need to be replaced.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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Okay so I looked at the a/c compressor closer and with the diagram I noticed that the thermal protector wires are cut. So I got another issue there.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 11:19 AM
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Cutting that wire prevents voltage from reaching the clutch coil (disables the compressor). Given that the button light also doesn't work, it appears that a previous owner really wanted the A/C system disabled.

Repairing cut wires is a relatively simple job.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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So that being said he must of done it for a reason. Maybe it was shorting out or blowing fuses. I can't find the plug in part to it though its just the cut wires.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:25 PM
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So that being said he must of done it for a reason. Maybe it was shorting out or blowing fuses.
This^ is one guess.

So, is the pulley or armature plate seized?

What did the voltage tests on fuse 13 tell you?

Providing more information will reveal what is wrong with the system.
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Old May 28, 2014 | 02:21 PM
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Hey man thanks for the guidance. Had to get to work couldn't check it. Again thanks for the help, will post the results tomorrow.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 01:14 PM
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here is a picture of the compressor the outside part the clutch actually does spin i was trying to move the pulley part yesterday. as of the fuse i did check it and it checks out good but it has a 10 amp one in rather then a 7.5 one. does this cause problems. i have more pictures ill load up here shortly
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Old May 29, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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this connection was tapped down next to the a/c fan and seems like they plugged it up i have know idea why they did this.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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If the clutch turns but the pulley doesn't, then there's a chance the compressor is okay - just needs a new pulley.

Not sure what the plug is, but could be for the pressure switch that plugs into the condenser. How many wires and what are the wire colors?

The diagrams may help you.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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Okay well I was thinking the plug was the one that connects to the thermal connection that is connects directly onto the compressor itself. Theres a plug right under it to and it looks more like the one your talking about. Could be mistaken though. Anyways it has two wires a all yellow one and a black one with a little yellow stripe.
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You need to replace the button/switch
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Old May 29, 2014 | 03:53 PM
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Will do then I found a part out car near by its a coupe DX model is there a difference in the a/c system?
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You need to replace the button/switch
That's a nice guess crazy.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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That's a nice guess crazy.
Well definitely don't want to be guessing. Well thanks RonJ@HT the diagrams helped a lot to get a good grasp of all the components that work together for the a/c system.
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