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Old May 7, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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Hello, I have 282,000 km on my 1990 crx si.
I have replaced the entire rear end suspension components in 2012 with all new OEM Honda parts
- new rear trailing arm bushings
- new compensator arms
- new lower control arms

I was wondering if I should replace everything on the front end soon.
- Upper control arms
- Lower control arms
- Inner and outer tire rods
- All engine mounts


The driveshafts are new (2013) and lower ball joint new (2011)
All wheel bearings were replaced as well (2011)

Should I replace these soon ?


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Old May 7, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Dont forget the tie rod boots/gearbox bellows. Get them from Honda, they are the same price as the ones from the autoparts stores.
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Old May 7, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by F22Master
Dont forget the tie rod boots/gearbox bellows. Get them from Honda, they are the same price as the ones from the autoparts stores.
Ya good idea !
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Old May 8, 2014 | 04:16 AM
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You cant get under there and take a peek to check there condition?
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Old May 8, 2014 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagitarian
You cant get under there and take a peek to check there condition?
I checked it last year, but with this mileage, shouldnt it be replaced ?
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Old May 8, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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If they not showing excesive wear, don't replace it yet.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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Since you want all OEM parts, why not go ahead and buy it now, then just hold onto it until you need them? Would suck to wait a few years then not be able to get any OEM stuff by then.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by James89DX
Since you want all OEM parts, why not go ahead and buy it now, then just hold onto it until you need them? Would suck to wait a few years then not be able to get any OEM stuff by then.
I will. Not sure if i should get the skunk22 upper arms though
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Old May 8, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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skunk2, do it. yes.
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Old May 8, 2014 | 09:10 PM
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I personally dont trust much anything skunk2, theres a reason they are nick named Junk2.

At that mileage I would think a refresh would be a good idea. As far as I know only the upper control arms are discontinued.

Engine mounts are a grey area, would require close inspection
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Old May 9, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Depending on the year, the UCA ball joint can be pressed out and replaced.
In that case, you don't need to get an entire UCA.

Similar to the LCA. You only need to replace the bushings. there is no need to replace the metal unless you crashed and bent it.
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Old May 9, 2014 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob.
I will. Not sure if i should get the skunk22 upper arms though
No. Just no. Are you looking for a specific camber figure or just going that route because it is seemingly cheaper?

Also, if you do fresh bushings in the front and the car aligns perfectly, then why replace good parts? I've never seen Honda control arms fail/fatigue for no apparent reason. Usually a crash takes them out/bends them.
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Old May 9, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd00
No. Just no. Are you looking for a specific camber figure or just going that route because it is seemingly cheaper?
I wanna save my front tires. I know OEM is stronger and better built, but -2.5 degrees camber is bad !

Anything else in the front I should replace ? radius rod bushings ?
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Old May 9, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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This is just my input, please do not take this the wrong way! Some people have probably had great experience with the Skunk2 upper control arms, but I have not.. I personally think they are junk. I had them on my 88 STD and they were complete garbage! Replaced the Ball Joints, 40$ Shipped(Each).. and within a year they were worn slam out! I have never had so much noise in the front end of a Civic.. I read where people were having to replace them like every two years. I purchased new upper control arms, and never looked back! I have had other Skunk products and loved them.. So please do not take this the wrong way! Just my personal opinion! GL!
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Old May 9, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenstixx
This is just my input, please do not take this the wrong way! Some people have probably had great experience with the Skunk2 upper control arms, but I have not.. I personally think they are junk. I had them on my 88 STD and they were complete garbage! Replaced the Ball Joints, 40$ Shipped(Each).. and within a year they were worn slam out! I have never had so much noise in the front end of a Civic.. I read where people were having to replace them like every two years. I purchased new upper control arms, and never looked back! I have had other Skunk products and loved them.. So please do not take this the wrong way! Just my personal opinion! GL!
I agree that aftermarket Made in China is not the same as OEM old school Honda Made in Japan or USA. The metal quality/strength is not the same.
The good thing about the Skunk2 is that they are adjustable.
I'll probably buy OEM though to be safe.
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Old May 9, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob.
I agree that aftermarket Made in China is not the same as OEM old school Honda Made in Japan or USA. The metal quality/strength is not the same.
The good thing about the Skunk2 is that they are adjustable.
I'll probably buy OEM though to be safe.
On my 94 VX, I had K-sport Coils.. The car was lowered, not slammed.. I never used a front camber kit. Took it to a local shop that specialized in alignments.. 1 man shop.. I did not have the slightest bit of camber wear what so ever! Car drove and handled great.. I was very impressed with the work.

I could be wrong, but I remember seeing a thread on here in regards to camber kits.. Saying "You do not need one".. He was also able to get my rear within a half of a degree to where it was supposed to be.. and i never had any issues.. Before i did that, my rear wanted to eat through tires!
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Old May 9, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Toe is what wears out your tires when you lower the car. Not camber so you don't need adjustable UCAs
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Old May 9, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanevansoh
Toe is what wears out your tires when you lower the car. Not camber so you don't need adjustable UCAs
Too much negative or positive Camber wears inner or outer shoulders on tires.
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Old May 9, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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I have the skunk2 uca and blox rear lca. 0 issues
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