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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Hey guys im hoping for some help on my quest to add a little kick to my engine. I WANT, yes WANT, to run a d16y7. Not because I cant wait a little bit and just drop a b16c in my car, because I want to have a clean STOCK engine that most people dont see on Hondas in my area. Everyone just pays for a b series drops it in and says "built not bought" or buy the car with the engine already dropped.

My question is.

With:

skunk 2 intake manifold
70mm skunk 2 throttle body
Skunk 2 tps
Pressure regulator
Aem fuel rail
Injen Short Ram Intakes - IS Series (Polished)
Megan racing 4-2-1 headers
Spec d n1 exhaust

Will I need to upgrade anything else or will my stock d16y7 Handel all those mods without a issue.

I understand there wont be MUCH power upgrade with these mods. But its a decent start for a little more kick.

So what do you think? Will my stock d16y7 motor Handel these upgrades without a safety issue of the engine.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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That is honestly allot of money wasted. With those mods you will need engine management along with dyno time to realize a 5hp(maybe) gain.

If you want a more cost effective mod, do a final drive in your transmission. Lower the gearing...it will provide a MUCH larger increase in acceleration than all those mentioned above. The only think I might do out of what you listed is an air intake. Other than that, your stock intake and exhaust manifold, as well as exhaust, are more than sufficient.

Or turbo it. That is the only way you will keep up with B's.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Thank you, i appreciate the feedback, more opinions appreciated also!
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 06:50 PM
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Can someone help tell me how i go about "doing a final drive in your transmission. Lower the gearing"
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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70mm throttle body will kill all your power. leave it stock or use b16 which is 60mm. Dont put a huge exhaust either. Just get a d16y8 or z6 trans, it has closer gears then yours, final drives do cost a bit and i dont know your budget

Throwing a d16y8 vtec head on your block will bump up your compression a tad bit, itll help with low end power and high end once vtec is engaged.

just my 2 cents
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:15 PM
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Also fuel rail doesnt nothing whats so ever towards your car
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Thank you ! i Appreciate it.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by QuintonD16y7
Can someone help tell me how i go about "doing a final drive in your transmission. Lower the gearing"
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:43 PM
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Got a buddy with a D16Y7 Turbo 10 psi running on E85 fuel and it keeps up with Bs and stock Ks

He's planning to put a z6 head and tranny and a better tune this summer.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:09 AM
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my responces in blue bellow

Originally Posted by QuintonD16y7
With:

skunk 2 intake manifold -use a 96-98 EX (Y8) intake manifold instead. much cheaper and not less improvement for your mild build
70mm skunk 2 throttle body -like others said, no. probably won't even need more than stock. let the dyno do the talking here. try stock, try B16 TB. see which is best for your setup.
Skunk 2 tps -no need. nothing wrong with the OE sensor.
Pressure regulator -also no need. when you get your Y8 manifold make sure it comes with the slightly higher flow injectors. this is the only fuel system upgrade you'll need.
Aem fuel rail -nope.
Injen Short Ram Intakes - IS Series (Polished) -name brand intakes are mostly all well build high quality parts... just not needed or beneficial to your performance goals. Factory Y8 with a good replacement filter and the resonators removed should give a similar effect for cheap.
Megan racing 4-2-1 headers -this is fine. '99-'00 Y8 had a factory tubular exhaust manifold (factory 4-2-1 header) which is a good alternative to the aftermarket stuff and looks "factory."
Spec d n1 exhaust -don't know anything about this brand or model but you will want no bigger than 2" OD for the pipe size. there may be other less expensive alternatives, so explore your options well before making up your mind.

Will I need to upgrade anything else or will my stock d16y7 Handel all those mods without a issue. transmission is a great place to start. either swap the final in your current gearbox or swap the whole unit for an EX ('92-'00) gearbox.

a mild street cam with a tune (back-convert to OBD-1, chipped ECU) can be cost effective if spend wisely.

I understand there wont be MUCH power upgrade with these mods. But its a decent start for a little more kick.

So what do you think? Will my stock d16y7 motor Handel these upgrades without a safety issue of the engine. Assuming you're engine is in good shape otherwise, up to date on maintenece, not been neglected and so forth, then sure it will handle it.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 03:16 AM
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Thank you everyone this is awesome! Im sure this will turn out a lot better!
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Old May 5, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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yea you are getting owned by the new to cars things, fuel rail, fpr, lol.. skunk2 tb/skunk2 tps.. lol..

we all gotta start somewhere.. I would start by posting your car up. Lets see what you have, and dont forget an engine bay shot.
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Old May 6, 2014 | 09:36 PM
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Just going to throw this out there. What are your GOALS with this car? If you REALLY want more power or a faster car save up some money, READ and be a sponge and figure out what kind of setup will best suit your needs. A NA D16 will be a money pit.
By goals I mean see my sig "12 sec and 30mpg" is my goal for my commuter. I have planned my build based off that. Will it be the fastest? no. Will it be the cheapest? no. But at the end of the day I will be happy accomplishing my goals. Then set another goal later. It's not always about immediate progress, its about progressively pursuing the future (goals).

Take it for what its worth. Any guys who have been building or around cars will agree, set a goal, have a plan and execute it. You won't be disappointed.
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Old Aug 3, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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...any progress with the upgrades?
I, not too long ago, purchased a 93CX with a Y7 swap (older guy put it in when motor died).
I've been reading on that motor and the power potential in it. It looks like that motor is the bastard child of d-series! Lol
Im currently swapping a z6 trans, for starters...i'll keep you posted on how that turns out!
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Old Aug 21, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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anther dreamer meets time
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Old Aug 21, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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^^
With lack of cash to fund the dream
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Old Aug 21, 2014 | 09:32 PM
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I did ex manifold with 2 inch intake pipe, and si trans on my 00 civic lx, i beat ls integras all the way up to mid 4th gear lol. The d series was fun but you WILL get tired of it. Especially if you do spirited driving. From 2000rpms to like 4500rpms, its all intake noise, but past 4700-4800rpms, you the ex manifold shines oh so bright.. short geared trans is even good for breaking. Going 50-60 in 4th gear and a downshift with little brake will have you kissing the steering wheel lol. The d series torque/hp ratio is better than b series...but b series have that formula for greatness
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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I'm very new here, but I've been doing my research. Why would one build a non VTEC Y7 when there is so much more potential in the Y8 or Z6? I'm not ball busting here or anything, legitimately curious. Seems like starting with a VTEC engine is a much better way to get power than buying all that aftermarket stuff just to catch up to the stock power of a VTEC engine. Is my logic flawed?
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Gator417
I'm very new here, but I've been doing my research. Why would one build a non VTEC Y7 when there is so much more potential in the Y8 or Z6? I'm not ball busting here or anything, legitimately curious. Seems like starting with a VTEC engine is a much better way to get power than buying all that aftermarket stuff just to catch up to the stock power of a VTEC engine. Is my logic flawed?
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all the 19 hp...

the Y7 with a mild street cam and a Y8 manifold swap with a tune will net similar results aside from the potential for a small loss in low to mid torque.

VTEC is neat stuff but it's not a required ingredient for turning cash into power/torque/performance gain.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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I agree a vtec head is not needed. But I do not agree with building a y7 head. You can find a single cam vtec heads super cheap.
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Old Sep 19, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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NA D's and B16's are for fuel economy and getting groceries.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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any updates op?

but seriously, post your car.. before you start this crazy sohc build.. i'm gonna guess you need bodywork, new brakes, new radiator, your lie rods are loose, your motor mounts are busted, your exhaust has a leak or 6, and you have a cel...

dreams are nice, but do work first.
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