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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 02:43 AM
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Hi guys,coilovers(max 1500 dollars) or koni and ground control for a track day?
I have civic ek4 with yellow koni and spoon springs but the car it's too high


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Old Apr 12, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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are you from Italy?

since you already have the koni yellows, just buy the ground controls for them. you are already half way there.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 12:21 PM
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You can adjust the perch cups on those koni to lower the car.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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You can adjust the perch cups on those koni to lower the car.
While the lower curclip locations are only intended for the stock springs, assuming that the OP is okay with riding the bumpstops, he can certainly do so with lowering springs.

Now, since the intention is for track days, he should concern himself more with suspension performance instead of ride height. Too low for the spring rate produces so many handling problems that it just isn't worth dealing with.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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^^^This. I'd say just get the Koni's re-valved depending on how many miles are on them (if you need to) and then just get the GC coilovers with your choice of spring rates. The Eibach springs that come on them are made in the U.S. and actually have quality control. I would also look into KW Suspension. They'd be right around your price range and are also high quality coilovers. It's a German company. Everything is made in-house and quality control tested. Here is a tour of their facility and a brief run-through of how they're made.

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...ur-Part-2.aspx
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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For the price range you're looking at, you could get a set of MeisterR Zeta R from the UK. They're highly recommended by the UK Type R folks as you can get custom spring rates. Shipping will probably be much less should you go that route. Otherwise the perch cups on those koni yellow struts should get you down to about a 10 mm wheel gap from the fender, depending on your tires. I wouldn't go any lower than that for track days.

I just got a set of PIC Select coil overs with 12kg/mm front and 10kg/mm rear spring rates for my ek. The wheel gap will be roughly 10mm with 225/45/15 hoosiers.
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 90_EX_Civic
are you from Italy?

since you already have the koni yellows, just buy the ground controls for them. you are already half way there.
Yes,i'm from italy,como's lake
I wrote to thmotorsports for a ground control but does not answer me


@redlinetuning
I wrote to the meister, with my specs the coilovers cost around 1800/2000 €
What are the perch cups?
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 05:45 AM
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That's odd. I sent meister an email and got a response within a day. What are the specs you are looking for?

The spring perch cups are what the springs sit on to the struts.
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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the meister told me right away, thmotorsport does not answer me for ground control
My specs are 12kg/mm front and 10kg/mm rear
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 10:47 PM
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Yes. Those were my specs to meister and they quoted me 1500$ plus shipping but it was going to be too long of a wait and too much $ for shipping to the USA.

Try calling pic performance? Or you could order from http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/index.php
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Coilovers or better yellow koni and ground control

hey guys, I recently heard about koni yellows, but I'd like some advice for my 96 accord. The ride height is ridiculous in the front so i want to lower it but I don't want to lose the stock ride. How can I achieve both without spending a lot.
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Old Apr 24, 2014 | 04:24 PM
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hey guys, I recently heard about koni yellows, but I'd like some advice for my 96 accord. The ride height is ridiculous in the front so i want to lower it but I don't want to lose the stock ride. How can I achieve both without spending a lot.
You can't.

Even with spending a lot, you can't.

If you want lower, you need to increase the spring rates, which will reduce the ride quality. If you don't, the lack of suspension travel with the stock rates will cause bottoming out, which severely reduces the ride quality.

If your priority is a stock ride quality, then accept your priority and leave it stock. If you decide that appearance matters more, then embrace that and determine the minimum spring rate you need for the desired ride height and buy parts to achieve that.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
You can't.

Even with spending a lot, you can't.

If you want lower, you need to increase the spring rates, which will reduce the ride quality. If you don't, the lack of suspension travel with the stock rates will cause bottoming out, which severely reduces the ride quality.

If your priority is a stock ride quality, then accept your priority and leave it stock. If you decide that appearance matters more, then embrace that and determine the minimum spring rate you need for the desired ride height and buy parts to achieve that.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Coilovers or better yellow koni and ground control

Someone told me to just get different. Springs
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MykHonda
Someone told me to just get different. Springs
Everything you need to know is already in this forum. There is no need to try and hijack this thread with such ignorant statements.

Yes, you need different springs to change the spring rate. This is something covered in basic high school physics class.

Stop posting, start reading.
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Old Apr 28, 2014 | 02:37 PM
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Just get ground control and you'll be set!
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