Hello, i have a stock 01 ITR with stock suspension. I was wondering where can i buy this koni yellow and ground control set up? Websites or stores?

And koni yellow - shocks?

ground control - springs?

Is this correct?

And what are the top hats for purpose?

 

And is it better to get the 0-2.5 adjustable or the .5-3.5

What is the difference?

Thanks

 

I bought my koni / gc from thmotorsports.com . Fair prices and they are very helpful with helping you pick a spring rate that will meet your needs.

You can get the top hats from them too. It would be a good idea to get them. This will keep your shocks from bottoming out.

The 0-2.5 and 0-3.5 is referring to the amount of adjustability in the sleeve.I didn't know ground controls had different sleeve choices. I was never given the option when I ordered mine. I don't see how getting the one with a larger range could possibly hurt.

 

Some folks like the stock ITR spring rates so they just get the Koni Yellow struts so they can lower the vehicle a bit. Others will use a Ground Control 550/450 or 450/550 spring rate (front/rear) depending on whether they like the rear to rotate more or not.

 

For daily driving and a road course in the future what would the preferred spring rates be?

And are the top hats neccessary? what is the purpose of them

 

When you ordered did you do it online? Because i am on the website and it gives me no options for the rates or anything

 

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THMotorsports almost always has the best prices for these. Send them a pm or contact them by phone/email if you can't figure out how to order custom rate springs. There are a lot of options. As far as the size of shock to get, it depends on how low you are planning on going and the length of spring you choose.

 

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...hp/II=825/CA=5

 

I emailed them first but ended up placing my order on the phone. They will talk you through the options.

The top hats are designed to keep the shock in its "normal range of motion"

This is probably a dumb analogy but here goes.

Imagine a 100 story building with an elevator that is parked on lvl 50. It's only designed to stay in the middle floors if the building, levels 30-70. That same elevator won't work in a 60 story building right? Because the height of the building ( your spring height) is shorter and you need to compensate for that with top hats.

 

I see, ok thanks, the analogy i had to re read 2 times lol, but i got it, so what would happen if you did not use the top hats? Because i seen people with D2's and they didnt have the top hats.

 

http://thmotorsports.com/ground_cont.../i-150567.aspx

Look it does not say what kind of spring rate etc, only the heigh .5-3.5

 

If you don't use top hats you could bottom the shock out internally, think elevator smashing into the bottom floor.

lol sorry for shitty analogy, was the first thing that popped into my head

It doesn't list a spring rate because you can choose that when you buy them. Just give them a call, I had a lot if questions too when I was ordering mine, it really helps to talk to them.

Just FYI if you go over 650 lb/in koni will NOT warranty them.

 

Thanks man, do you need top hats for all 4 or just the fronts should be good? And what would be a good spring rate for daily driving and occasioanly road racing?

 

What kind of drop are you planning? If less than 2" top hats are not necessary.

 

Stock rates for a type R are

246 lb/in front
140-246 lb/in progressive rear

Somewhere in the 400-450 front and 300-400 lb rear should put you in the ballpark of more aggressive than stock but still streetable and not too drifty.

 

My integra type R is stock height, it is lower than other integras already. I just want to lower it a bit like another 1 in 1.5 in, i dont want it slammed

So you think i can pass on the top hats?

 

I was thinking 400 or 450 F and 350 Rear, you think that sounds decent?

 

This is straight from the Q&A on Koni's website

Q: How much can I safely lower my car?

A: KONIs are designed to fit standard height cars and can work with lowered cars as long as they don't bottom out internally and become damaged. Unlike some shocks, KONIs are not position sensitive so they will work properly anywhere in their stroke range providing they are not bottoming or topping out. Different vehicle suspension designs have different stroke travels but a good rule of thumb is that most vehicles can be lowered acceptably about 1 1/2 inches, beyond that the possibility of bottoming increases rapidly although some longer stroke cars can go lower. Most vehicles are equipped with bump stops to keep the shocks and springs from bottoming out. When lowering a vehicle be sure to reuse your bump stops as they are cheap insurance to avoid bottoming damage. Remember also that severely lowered vehicles typically also have a negative effect on suspension geometry, ride quality and handling, and tire and suspension part wear.

So yes for a minor drop (1.5 or less) you should be ok.

I think both 400 or 450 front and 350 rear will work good for you. And remember if you want to change spring rates you can get just the springs for relatively cheap.

 

Thanks for you help man a lot! I wish i can rep you on this site lol

 

No prob. I had a lot of questions too when I bought mine. Should make your ITR even more epic.