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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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Default bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

My 93 EX sedan is very stock, and i want bigger rims (15-16) and more importantly wider wheels for better contact. I read that people used 16x7 and needed to roll their fenders and i don't wanna permanently modify the car or have crooked wheels, like i said i want a pure bolt on bigger wheel/tire.

Im looking at tire rack and its telling me 15x8-7 with 25 or 35-45 offset, and 5-5.5 backspacing.

Does anyone know the limits of the wheel wells without modifying it? I tried searching for this info i dont think it does but if it exists already id like to be directed toward it.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

15/16x7 with offsets in the 40-45 range will work well without having to modify anything. As for tires, I'd go with 195/50-205/50 with 15s, 205/45 with 16s.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 09:40 AM
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

what about 8 inch wide? i kno someone with 15x8 on his really old accord and they look good on his car. like i said id rather have more contact like a 15x8 than a 16x7
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

You won't fit 8's on properly sized tires without some body work, if the car is lowered at all.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by toyomatt84
You won't fit 8's on properly sized tires without some body work, if the car is lowered at all.
i'm proud of how stock this car is. Theres a few non-OEM pieces like the rear door handles and general maintenance crap, but the ride height wheels wheel covers etc are all factory parts.

But its good to know that if i decide later to lower it i cant use 15x8.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 02:17 PM
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

Originally Posted by BlazedD
15/16x7 with offsets in the 40-45 range will work well without having to modify anything. As for tires, I'd go with 195/50-205/50 with 15s, 205/45 with 16s.
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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by P-M-B,93EXsedan
i'm proud of how stock this car is. Theres a few non-OEM pieces like the rear door handles and general maintenance crap, but the ride height wheels wheel covers etc are all factory parts.

But its good to know that if i decide later to lower it i cant use 15x8.
If you're still at stock height, you'll find that running any sort of 15x8 will look out of place.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by toyomatt84
If you're still at stock height, you'll find that running any sort of 15x8 will look out of place.
what's that suppose to mean? It'l wont rub but it'l look dumb? my car already looks dumb, most of the clear coat disappeared. And there's gonna be more and more black chunks that look out of place.

im gonna lurk more about the 15x8s but I doubt I'll find any pictures of stock height civics whatsoever.. Seriously im more concerned about rubbing against the fenders or inner fenders than looks, and also i want the best traction i can get.
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

Here's, more or less, what a stock height Civic on lower offset 15x8's will look like:
http://oi48.tinypic.com/raw83o.jpg
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Originally Posted by toyomatt84
Here's, more or less, what a stock height Civic on lower offset 15x8's will look like:
http://oi48.tinypic.com/raw83o.jpg
haha that does look pretty dumb. Could i have wheels with more offset or is that when i would run into the tires rubbing against the fender/inner fender?
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haha that does look pretty dumb. Could i have wheels with more offset or is that when i would run into the tires rubbing against the fender/inner fender?
I don't know what you mean by "more offset", but if you went with a higher offset... you'd have an easier time fitting a 15x8.

15x8 +36 with 205/50/15's (and a slight drop):
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/...ndo1688/cc.jpg
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 09:19 PM
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

elaborate on "more contact". Are you planning to track the car? Is that why you're concerned about "contact patch"?
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elaborate on "more contact". Are you planning to track the car? Is that why you're concerned about "contact patch"?
more contact between the tires and the street should translate to more grip right? So tires that are 2 inches wider have 2 extra inches against the road. I find its too easy to spin the tires. And I'm hoping it'l help in the turns too. But no I dont really wanna track the automatic (I dont trust the autos) maybe after I swap a dual cam in but I'm hoping to find a DX coupe for all that.

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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

Originally Posted by toyomatt84
I don't know what you mean by "more offset", but if you went with a higher offset... you'd have an easier time fitting a 15x8.

15x8 +36 with 205/50/15's (and a slight drop):
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/...ndo1688/cc.jpg
sorry if I said it wrong, you know what I meant tho higher offset more offset further back, its a bigger number either way. Please excuse me for being lazy I'm gonna search what offset people have used on 15x8 it seems pretty popular.

i just really dont want to permanently alter the car with bodywork. I'm not really interested in lowering the car either, but if i have to i can easily chop the springs or preferably find some cheap coilovers.

thanks Toyo you're extremely helpful guy. I dont think I thanked you b4 this post but if I did thanks again instead
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Old Mar 11, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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Default Re: bolt-on only wheels, what size specs for bigger wheels?

Tire compound is more important than contact patch if grip is what you're concerned with. Whether you use a 15x7 or 15x8 wheel, it matters what the tire sizes are. You could have the following tire sizes.
195-50-15 (will stretch quite a bit on an 8" wheel)
205-50-15
205-45-15
215-45-15
225-50-15
225-45-15
235-45-15

The softer the tire compound, the faster it will warm up and "grip". But the softer the compound, the shorter lifespan it will have as well. Generally a tire with a UTQ rating of 200 is pretty good for performance, but will not give you as much "mileage" as something with a higher rating. Some tire sizes will perform better than others depending on the compound as well.

I'm running 225/45/15 Hoosiers on my 15x7 track wheels and 205/50/16 on my 16x7 wheels. They work differently because of the compounds, not so much as the width of the tires.

If it's not a track car then I wouldn't bother with super expensive tires.

Side note- if you're spinning tires on an automatic civic then you have worn out tires or your driving is super-spirited.
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Originally Posted by redlinetuning
Tire compound is more important than contact patch if grip is what you're concerned with. Whether you use a 15x7 or 15x8 wheel, it matters what the tire sizes are. You could have the following tire sizes.
195-50-15 (will stretch quite a bit on an 8" wheel)
205-50-15
205-45-15
215-45-15
225-50-15
225-45-15
235-45-15

The softer the tire compound, the faster it will warm up and "grip". But the softer the compound, the shorter lifespan it will have as well. Generally a tire with a UTQ rating of 200 is pretty good for performance, but will not give you as much "mileage" as something with a higher rating. Some tire sizes will perform better than others depending on the compound as well.

I'm running 225/45/15 Hoosiers on my 15x7 track wheels and 205/50/16 on my 16x7 wheels. They work differently because of the compounds, not so much as the width of the tires.

If it's not a track car then I wouldn't bother with super expensive tires.

Side note- if you're spinning tires on an automatic civic then you have worn out tires or your driving is super-spirited.
right now, on the 14s I think they're 6 inches wide, the tires that came with the car were very ballooned. Maybe 3/4 of an inch on each side. I usually check my tires when I warm up my car and I always want to check if they're going flat because of how much they stick out. My tires probably aren't half way thru their life, there's decent treads left. I think they're 250 but I cannot remember
what I want to do is get two 150 for the front, prolly gonna cost me 80$ a tire. I like the rear to be a little slippery so I'll probably put used tires back there, I usually wear out the rears pretty quickly and iv got access to a small pile of 15s and a huge pile of 16s but half the 16s are really tall they must've come off trucks.

I'm trying to be easier on the car but I'm used to 220whp not 100, the car prefers 0-50 in about a minute but I prefer maybe 10 second
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Originally Posted by P-M-B,93EXsedan
right now, on the 14s I think they're 6 inches wide, the tires that came with the car were very ballooned. Maybe 3/4 of an inch on each side. I usually check my tires when I warm up my car and I always want to check if they're going flat because of how much they stick out. My tires probably aren't half way thru their life, there's decent treads left. I think they're 250 but I cannot remember
what I want to do is get two 150 for the front, prolly gonna cost me 80$ a tire. I like the rear to be a little slippery so I'll probably put used tires back there, I usually wear out the rears pretty quickly and iv got access to a small pile of 15s and a huge pile of 16s but half the 16s are really tall they must've come off trucks.

I'm trying to be easier on the car but I'm used to 220whp not 100, the car prefers 0-50 in about a minute but I prefer maybe 10 second
What you just said contradicts the whole purpose of your original posting. You wanted more traction, thus going with wider tires/wheels for that sole intent. Now you're saying you like the rear to be a little slippery, (assuming you like some oversteer action). But that can be achieved with some suspension tuning and good tires, not the opposite by using used, worn out tires.

The fact that those 14s are "ballooned" is because they're probably 185-60-14 or something in that range.

You're confused.
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I specifically said I spin tires. What tires am I gonna burn out in FWD? Am I spinning the rear tires in my Honda civic? Also if I'm gonna be ruining my rear tires by over steering my car, sliding them instead of turning them, why would I waste good tires when I can thrash some crap tires that are only worth 20-40$
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i just.. wow.


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Originally Posted by P-M-B,93EXsedan
I specifically said I spin tires. What tires am I gonna burn out in FWD? Am I spinning the rear tires in my Honda civic? Also if I'm gonna be ruining my rear tires by over steering my car, sliding them instead of turning them, why would I waste good tires when I can thrash some crap tires that are only worth 20-40$
Ummm. What?
I wonder how you plan on doing these things when the equation of tire/wheel fitment eludes you?
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