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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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Default 17 x 7 +45 cause bad camber wear?

so i know this may have been asked before, but im going to be buying my friends rims that are 17x7 with a +45 offset. now i read somewhere that theres a certain offset where you will get horrible camber wear. now i am not using a camber kit cause there really no good. and i will get another alignment when i lower my car again?

so is the +45 offset gunna be bad? will it fill the wheel well? i now 17x9 +20 is a great fitment but theres a budget so im getting these.

input needed please no negativity.

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A wheels offset will not cause camber issues, worn bushigns/balljoints or a bad camber setting will affect camber wear. Bad toe can also cause camber like wear on a tire, just make sure to go to a tire shop that knows/understand alignments and what a preferred setting is. Not a simple 'its good enough/with in specs' nonsense.
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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A wheels offset will not cause camber issues, worn bushigns/balljoints or a bad camber setting will affect camber wear. Bad toe can also cause camber like wear on a tire, just make sure to go to a tire shop that knows/understand alignments and what a preferred setting is. Not a simple 'its good enough/with in specs' nonsense.
so as long as my alignment is perfect, I should be fine?
I read somewhere that some type of camber will make it wear bad? is this not true? I know last summer when my car was tucking tire on stock steelies. the front had over 3 degrees of camber I think the guy said. and the also asked me for the specs needed for the alignment? and the guy also asked for the specs needed to do the job? I was low. should he have asked me that or should he have known??
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 02:55 AM
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so as long as my alignment is perfect, I should be fine?
As long as the caster/camber/toe settings are adjusted for the kind of driving that will be done, tire wear should be even to maximize grip and tire life.
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I read somewhere that some type of camber will make it wear bad? is this not true?
Incorrect alignment settings for a given vehicle will cause undesirable wear and handling characteristics.
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I know last summer when my car was tucking tire on stock steelies. the front had over 3 degrees of camber I think the guy said. and the also asked me for the specs needed for the alignment? and the guy also asked for the specs needed to do the job? I was low. should he have asked me that or should he have known??
When you modify your car in such a way that is more based on a look than performance a tech will not know what settings to adjust the suspension to.
If you want that stanced look, excessive tire wear is going to happen due to the ridiculous, pointless, excessive negative camber needed to get the wheels tilted so far that the tires are riding on the sidewalls.
-3° of camber on a street car is going to accelerate tire wear.
If the suspension is modified outside of factory settings/geometry you will have to provide the technician with the settings that you want. A well trained/educated technician can establish a good baseline for most cars, but outside of normal adjustments you will need to provide the technician with the specifications for the desired effect.

Don't expect a tech to know what toe/camber settings you want when your cars wheels look like this.

Because yolo, dat lyfe, etc...
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MAD_MIKE
As long as the caster/camber/toe settings are adjusted for the kind of driving that will be done, tire wear should be even to maximize grip and tire life.

Incorrect alignment settings for a given vehicle will cause undesirable wear and handling characteristics.

When you modify your car in such a way that is more based on a look than performance a tech will not know what settings to adjust the suspension to.
If you want that stanced look, excessive tire wear is going to happen due to the ridiculous, pointless, excessive negative camber needed to get the wheels tilted so far that the tires are riding on the sidewalls.
-3° of camber on a street car is going to accelerate tire wear.
If the suspension is modified outside of factory settings/geometry you will have to provide the technician with the settings that you want. A well trained/educated technician can establish a good baseline for most cars, but outside of normal adjustments you will need to provide the technician with the specifications for the desired effect.

Don't expect a tech to know what toe/camber settings you want when your cars wheels look like this.

Because yolo, dat lyfe, etc...
haha im dying but no im not going for stanced I just want to be low and its the camber that that created, I tried going for a camber kit but it didn't wanna work with my upper control arm. it kept bouncing off frame, not letting car sit how it should.
now how would I figure out what settings I should be at then??
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haha im dying but no im not going for stanced I just want to be low and its the camber that that created, I tried going for a camber kit but it didn't wanna work with my upper control arm. it kept bouncing off frame, not letting car sit how it should.
now how would I figure out what settings I should be at then??
What type of camber kit did you have? Anchor bolt kit or a ball joint type kit? I have the ingalls anchor bolt kit (fronts) and no problems so far and it has been on the car for three years. Before alignment I was -2.0 on the front and after installing the kit I was at -0.1 on the fronts. It helped me out.
If you go to get it aligned, let them know up front what specs you want. Most places just adjust the toe and send you on your way. Since I had the anchor bolt kit, I told them I wanted camber and toe adjusted to 0.0. Close enough with -0.1.

P.S. I had to hammer out the pinch weld in the fender and no more bouncing off the frame.
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Old Mar 2, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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What type of camber kit did you have? Anchor bolt kit or a ball joint type kit? I have the ingalls anchor bolt kit (fronts) and no problems so far and it has been on the car for three years. Before alignment I was -2.0 on the front and after installing the kit I was at -0.1 on the fronts. It helped me out.
If you go to get it aligned, let them know up front what specs you want. Most places just adjust the toe and send you on your way. Since I had the anchor bolt kit, I told them I wanted camber and toe adjusted to 0.0. Close enough with -0.1.

P.S. I had to hammer out the pinch weld in the fender and no more bouncing off the frame.
I know its gunna sound bad but it was an ebay anchor bolt. and wow that's a difference I would like. so is that what I want is as close as they can get to 0.0? and when I was doing research people were saying DO NOT do that? did it affect anything else when you did? do you have a picture of your car?
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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everyone argues about camber kits. Search and ull find 100000 threads on them.

I had an ingalls balljoint on the front and now have SPC ball joint camber kit on the front. Wicked Tuning for the rear.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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everyone argues about camber kits. Search and ull find 100000 threads on them.

I had an ingalls balljoint on the front and now have SPC ball joint camber kit on the front. Wicked Tuning for the rear.
so is it worth buying one or should a good alignment be just fine?
its not the camber I really care about its just how longer the tires will last?

on mine for the front I had ebay anchor bolts, tried to install be couldn't, and for the rear I had wicked tuning also, also not installed cause there was no rear camber.
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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To me it is worth it. I havent had any irregular or faster tire wear.
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 19Accord97
To me it is worth it. I havent had any irregular or faster tire wear.
i may just have to install some this year.
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