My friend told me that someone on this board had a turbo'd stock 94 ex motor and turbo'd it to 300+. I need to know what you did to the engine before and what turbo you used.

 

hmm the only turbo f22b1 guy i know is niedljb(spelling?) with 250+whp f22b1 turbo in his acura CL. i think he has the fmax kit with upgraded fuel mods.

 

I plan to hit 300 + on the stock bore.

GE has the block now

 

Oh really? Riddle me this guys:

ALL motor h22a to the max

-------vs--------

Turbo'd f22b1


Now my friend said the f22b1 because of power to price. But how far could the h22a go?

 

turbo f22 would own an NA h22.

 

I woulnd't say that 100%.

What about a de-stroked 2.0 H22A with ITB's revving to 10k+?

But yes I agree, odds are a build turbo F could dominate.

 

I would go with f22 turbo because of the power to price ratio. My turbo f22 will be done here soon need a smc and oil lines

 

Haven't we covered this before?

edit : one of many threads https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=239974


[Modified by Vantage, 8:22 PM 10/29/2002]

 

i will say this. and i know some feel different but this is how i decieded on mine

h22 NA will run you 2200-2500 for you setup. If you price and do it right. there is a ot of places that will rip you knowing your willing to pay.. Do it right and look around first.

Turbo F22 would be nice but my thing is.. there is no where really to go once you have done the f22. With my h22, i can start at a new plateau *spelling* and work my way up from there. In time, in time

 

i prefer f22b1 turbo, i've seen them in action and they have so much potential. sohc vtec with 8.8:1 compression is almost perfect for turbo, with stock internals 7-8 psi should be fine daily. 10 psi at the track. oh yeah, with the high bore/stroke ratio you will make massive torque to get the heavyset accord moving.

 

oh geez!!..not this again, I have an H22A powered accord, friend has a 95 with fmax kit, I still beat him!!..

bottom line, its a parallel universe, there is no end to it!
its whatever turns ur crank!!!

and thats that!

 

you are gonna spend WAY more money making the f22 faster then you would spend on an h22a. end of discussion.

 

I dont buy that.

I think at the end of the day you're going to have a lot more fast F series car in this forum then H blocks.

 

You are one of those people that argue "the sky isnt blue" arent you?

 

nevermind, i overread that you are saying faster F series cars in this FORUM. But like i said, the H series have more capability then the F series do. Ive seen full blown turbo sohc's and they are fast, but take a dohc and do the same ****... guess who wins 99% of the time?

 

This is completely wrong.

 

You know this isnt a Honda but i think good examples of STREET DRIVEN SOHC's making 400+ HP are SVO Mustangs and XR4Ti's and that whole line of Ford 2.3L SOHC turbos.

Why do most people on this board insist DOHC VTEC is the end all of I4 performance?

No i dont argue just to argue on this forum, but I will flag that I believe to be totally wrong and/or inaccurate.

This whole thing has been debated on the Accord forum at length.

The sheer abundance of F series motors out there speaks for itself on the price issue, and its just a matter of time till reaily available valvetrain components are available.

niedejb: im talking to the guy who runs http://www.engnbldr.com about making some perfomance bronze guides for the F series.... he seems willing to work on it. He also will make stainless valves too assuming enough people would show some interest.


[Modified by GimpyAccord, 12:38 PM 10/30/2002]

 

The thing is, many ppl say that "you could take an h22a engine far" but where are the dyno's or some type of proof? I have seen the f22 dyno's and goodness, due to the compression ratio, the engine changes from toddler to giant. This link proves it to me: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=239974 *This is to you h22ers with dyno's, can i see them?*

 

get the f to rev, you will make the power, its a mathematical FACT

Nick end this, this is an obvious effort in futility for those that cant search.

 

AYE! misa did you peep that thread ab00t the F20C crank in an H23a1? If F20C crank fits h23a1 it w0uld w3rk in the F22B2 for sure, i dunno bout the F22b1. its got me all antsy in my pantsy.

 

heh.. did it change the firing order or anything (since the F20C is a clockwise spinning engine)?

whats the stroke/bore/rod length of an F20C anyway?

 

Ask and ye shall recieve..




h22 ownz joo all!!

 

heehe yah and i bet he doesnt have a lot of money in that H..

gimme a break.

 

Well the engine is full built yes, but again the f22 even though fully built could never reach those heights. And I think that is what people mean when they talk about potential between the two engines... Is the f22 a good engine to turbo, hells yes, I will no argue there. But it all depends on what your goals are for Hp and reliability..

 

you've gone way beyond the scope of every turbo accord owner/or future turbo accord owner in here....

and you guys always do this.

not to mention in some of my research lately... I dont see any reason why an opendeck H22 (97+) head wouldnt bolt on an F block without a whole lot of modification. the F and H blocks (especially 97+ H) share more in common than you'd care to admit.

now if someone would give me a H22A4 head cheaply i can proceed with my lil project