I know most people would say stick to OEM, but want a little more of a sportier ride. Its for a DD and dont want poly or spherical. Ive read all over about Hardrace being a PITA to press and forcing can damage. As for Mugen, there arnt many reviews for them and I read somewhere else that they are exact as oem. PIC are about the same as Hardrace bushings from reviews online.

also any other suggestions for other bushings to replace while Im at it?

My Top 3 RTA bushings-
Hardrace
PIC/Suja1
mugen

DD that gets pushed hard in corners/canyons
Currently on:pro kit/ illumina

 

new redesigned OEM is basically mugen.

 

^correct.

Stiffest OEM RTAB should be the one from the UK Aerodeck MB6 VTI.

I should check my notes on this.

 

Just get OEM.

 

Oem itr RTA are stiffer then the rest and are same as mugen RTA only cheaper lol. I would go oem itr or hardrace

 

If your looking for a sporty ride. Rta isn't the way to do it!

 

What I meant by that was bushings that can take some abuse and not fail while cornering.

also, I went down to the dealership and they gave a quote of 50 dll ea....so OEM it is, I haven't ordered them yet but will soon

Any other bushings I should replace on while I'm at it?

 

I auto-x my hatch and I use OEM. It was a major improvement over the old worn out bushings. I think I paid $75 for the pair shipped

 

Look online, you should be able to find them closer to $30 each, and most Honda dealership parts departments will price match!

http://www.hondapartsunlimited.com/

 

installed a hardrace kit on my 99 civic.. didn't really feel much different. about 5 years later and the bushings still look good

 

I don't know what the hardness ratings are like on the various bushings. I think you can't go wrong with any reasonably priced rubber bushing. I can say that the PIC/SUJA1 install just fine and work as advertised.

 

Energy Suspension user checking in to cause an uproar lol. 4 years strong and the same bushings have even been put into different arms. Yeah I bent my RTA's real bad, pressed the ES bushings out, lubed them again and pressed them into another set of RTA's. But the internet will tell you they are horrible.

 

Thinking bout doing the es RTA bushings for my integra but the es ones I had in the past (never installed) didn't have a metal band around them so didn't use them. The es RTA bushings seem to be a good choice from my standpoint as I'm not tracking or anything just replacing old bushings on a slammed car and the es RTA bushings dont need to be clocked.

 

They don't have the metal band because you utilize the "metal band" already pressed into the arm. You remove only the rubber inside of it.

 

i love the ES ones myself. have them on 7 different cars including my crv. oldest set is 5 years old and still looks brand new.

 

How do the es rta feel on daily driving? Not doing any tracking with my car its just a slammed street cruiser that is slowly getting all the bushings replaced with hard race but might end up doing a es full kit instead. Sorry for the thread jack op

 

Are the OEM ITR RTA bushing the interchangable with the EF chassis?

 

You feel them, for sure but it's not as bad as people like to make it seem. The TA bushings by far made the biggest difference.
I bought the "master" kit, and I would recommend against it. It's by no means a master kit, and comes with a bunch of stuff that's basically useless.

back to the thread, OP, I would just get whatever is cheaper on that list. They're all great bushings, and wont give you any trouble.
I just switched my ES TA bushings for OEM parts and I'm happy.

 

dont be fooled by the ITR scam. sure some stuff that only the ITR comes with is cool but most of the ITR stuff people will try to sell you is the same parts used on several other hondas. ITR suspension and brake parts are actually from crv, a lot of engine parts are for b16/gsr/itr and are no different just because they are itr. the rest is just relabeled parts or people saying "this is REAL ITR". just because they say it is doesn't mean ****.

back on topic... i daily drive my cars with ES RTA bushings, motor mount inserts, and several other es bushings im forgetting at the moment. its a little stiffer than stock but after a few days you get used to it and will actually like it a lot better. the car handles way better and you get more feedback from the road. by no means is it "rough" at all. if anything, the stock bushings are mushy/flimsy/soft and feel like crap, especially if they are worn out.

 

While a lot of itr parts are nothing different then other models bushings are actually stiffer rubber compared to a non itr. Of course some are different cuz of sizing ie sway bar but most can be used on non r models as a oem upgrade. That's according to mugen and also some spec sheet I saw from honda that broke down all the upgrades on them. But by no means am I trying to push itr parts just passing on some general info that I have come across through out the years.

 

No, they're not. The only bushings on the whole car that were different (as far as the ones that would cross over) were the front compliance bushings, but by 2000 those had superceded and were used across the Integra line.

Where are you getting that information?

As far as durability, the OE ones are about the best you can get. Hell, my daily still has the originals, and while tired, their not torn at 220k and 14 years!

 

Got my information from mugen and honda. When I was researching bushings I came across it. It was a site that that explained all the differences between the itr and non itr models