just a quick question

what does it take for a daily 2200-2400lb car to get into 12 seconds or maybe high 11s?

for all motor b series
bosted b series
all motor k series
boosted k series

all stock bore( if thats even possible for all motor b series)

i did some research but having hard time making a valid comparison.

was wondering if anyone have a quick answer from experience

 

i went a 12.4@119mph with a very bad 60ft 2.1 if i remember correctly on a bone stock b16 engine, Holset hx40, ebay manifold, ebay ic, tuned on chrome gold

 

:-/

 

how much does it weigh ?

power steering? ac?



i guess i should be more specific

gsr boosted or NA
k20 boosted or NA
k24 boosted or NA
in same chasis civic integra del sol that weighs 2200-2400 lbs

 

im just not sure which route to take.

i would like to get to 12s possibly high/mid 11s

as much as people recommend k swap im a b series fan i just love the motor and how it looks and sounds...

and it seems like people been getting the torbos tuned up very well to what they need to do and getting damn good gas mileage out of boosted cars. so i might get sold on the boost before i get sold on k swap

 

You should be able to go 12's on the stuff in your sig with a decent set of tires. There are guys in your area who have gone 9's in daily driver turbo B cars...10's for days and 11's is so easy it hurts...

 

Didnt have a chance to run it. Got damaged.
Rebuilding now.
11s are not that easy mang

 

a few years ago i was running consistant 12.5@115 in an ek coupe full interior on radials with 1.9 60ft. piston and rod lsvtec making 350/230 give or a take a few. it was like 14-16 psi out of a 57 trim. it was very consistant and very reliable i must have put 18,000 miles on that motor that year.

that being said, somewhere in the mid to upper 300s b series on boost will make your goals. once your goals go from mid 11s to mid 10's, it takes a lot more of an increase imo than from mid 12's to mid 11's

on motor im not as sure not as familiar so ill let others chime in on that.

 

full trim 94 civic coupe on 205 40 17 nitto 555 with 2 12 inch sub in a heavy sub box along with my 80lb tool box in the trunk.

stock gsr motor with skunk2 pro series intake
rc 750cc
walboro 255lb fuel pump
aem filter, rail, pressure regulator
act xtreme pressure plate with 6 puck race disc
act light weight fly wheel (not recommended)
pfab ramhorn
garret 60-1
treadstone intercooler kit
tail 38mm 2 bolt wastegate 12(psi spring)

street tune on 91 premium with old version s300 with the innovate wideband. don't know how much horse it made but was running constant 12, with launch control, full throttle shift at 8k best was 12.6 could of hit mid to high 11 if i had knowledge of better tire back and all that good tuning stuff.

basically any stock d, b, h, and k series motor with a good turbo kit, right fuel setup, good tune, and right tire will run 12 all day, and not to forget you have to be a good driver also.

 

in full street trim, full exhaust, 93 octane, A/c, no P/S, eg or ek, b20(high comp) vtec, gsr head, type r cams, type r style(rep) intake manifold, type r header(or toda rep),b16 or type r trans, good ignition and good tuning. that will give you 12's easy with a good suspension and good driving.

 

My car went high 11's and consistent low 12's on drag radials with a basic stock block lsvtec, gsr cam, gt35, and full 3" exhaust. It weighed 2450 with me and retained full interior.

 

H2B stock h22a JDM longblock with cable b16 trans.

China Megan header, stock cams, stock everything. Chipped p28 ecu, Fully body 89 crx DX with full interior all panels, radio, drove to the track dropped the stock exhaust and ran 12.3 all motor on 23" slicks.

 

we have pretty much the same set up minus cams. i only make 8 more hp than you. full daily driver and race ready. pm me if you need help.


96 cx uncut full glass removed rear sears and plastic.
ls/vtec
gsr head stock ports
supertech valve springs
skunk2 pro2s
skunk2 intake manifold
68mm tb
pr3 pistons
stock rods and rod bolts
ebay try-y header
ebay 500cc injectors
ebay 3" intake
exedy stage 1
22x8x13 m&h slicks
skunk 2 coilovers on kyb agx
pump 93

 

My stock b20vtec with an ebay turbo kit at 8psi made 265whp/210trq, went 12.5 with 22' slicks. I daily'd that thing for 2 years, traveled to Socal a few times and drove 3 1/2hrs north, threw on the slicks, ran my car, swap tires, and drove back no problem. Like everyone has mentioned above, 12s is easy, with a piston/rod setup 11s is a must, IMO.

 

I daily drove my hatch back forever, went to the track ran 11.70's-11.80's @ 118-120

Stock LS, Garrett .57 trim, car has power windows and what not too.

 

damn. lol wheres all motor guys with 12 second daily...
all the boosted people here

what about street tires anyone run 12s with all motor on street tires?

 

I went 12.7 with street tires (Yokohama S-Drives), and 12.0 with 23" slicks. 2380LBs with me in it. (full interior 1996 civic). All motor B-series on 91oct (253whp SAE - 257whp STD)

 

we had a integra with a built high comp GSR on 93 (pump gas) ran 12.20s on GSR trans some weight reduction ksport coilovers good tires and good clutch...

was all motor no boost or spray lol

 

i got yokohama 205-50-16 right now with gsr tranny
in a del sol with skunk2 pro C

and we got 92 octane highest here

SPAMotors can you post link to the motor specs?

i havent even got a chance to take the car to the track lol only raced few stock cars that were in 13 second range or so


is it purposely double meaning in your name? SPAMotorsports? not tryin to be a dick

 

In 1999 I had a LS allmotor (yes Nonvtec allmotor) 91 CRX that I drive every day. It went 12.8@106 It was one fast *** daily driver back then.

81.5mm bore 10.5:1 pistons deburred ports with cams and valve train..

 

my ek did 12.4 @ 109 at 2480 with driver with a k20a with cams/ rbc 3 inch exhaust. drove the car for years and years all over the country. made 219 on a dyno dynamics


did 11.30 @ 119 at 2370 with 300whp with a simple k24 still on the rbc intake. drove it any time the weather was nice.

 

Cant wait til spring.

First time out on the track with a stock turbo ls making 288 at 13psi on 24.5" slicks. We will see...

 

since somebody asked, I think I will bring out my street tires out of the attic. they are hoosier r6 185/60/13 tires on vx wheels. best pass(almost 2yrs ago with less power and seat time) went 13.3@103mph 2.0 60ft. im sure i can do 12's easy with these on my b20vtec ek hatch.

 

12.5@109 in my NA k20/k24 rsx making 263hp. if i had to guess the weight, i'd say around 2900-3000. it's still my daily and runs on pump 91.

 

itll take 200-300 whp for the weight you have listed to get you 11-12 sec quart mile times. now, the rest will be up to your suspension choice, tires, transmission, driving skill, track conditions, weather ect...