i have a stock first gen b16a with a pr3 ecu. i was wondering if i would of chip the ecu would it make any difference?

 

Yes, it would make a difference.

A good difference? Doubt it. Also depends on what chip you are using. Any chip from ebay is a bad idea. Custom basemaps from good tuners are mediocre. A custom tune is only worth it if you have actually altered the motor a good bit.

If all you want is launch control, shift light and a rev limiter changed, that's easy. I have a PR3 with a b16A chip in it that does that but keeps the rest stock I think. I wouldn't alter the map without actually tuning it though. You can PM if you want a chipped ECU, I still have my chipped PR3.

 

what about a spoon chip from ebay?

 

Not sure if troll.

eBay = are you sure the chip you send you is really what they say it is.
Spoon = have you modded your engine to duplicate the exact engine that Sppon used when they created the Spoon chip?

Any chip you get without creating a custom tune isn't a great idea. As Freemananannaaanannanannabanana already mentioned, the only chip really worth installing is for adding mods like shift light, rev limit, etc.
Getting a chip with a tune on it that isn't custom to your engine and your mods isn't going to be a good investment. Dino tune with a custom chip made for your car is the best way to go.

 

My name is Freeman and there was a weird banana joke in high school that spawned my username.

And I can definitely say the eBay Spoon chip is bad. I read a thread where the guy bought 3 or 4 eBay chips and all they were was more fuel, bad timing changes and lowering VTEC/raising the rev limiter. And that's just a bad idea all together. The stock map is good. You can raise the rev limiter a little bit. 2 Step launch control is really nice. The shift light is also a good one. Disabling things you don't have hooked up is also nice, like the knock sensor if your block doesn't have one and the ECU is looking for it.

 

It makes a big difference with the right chip. I like Wicked Innovation if they still do them. A good tuner can take your mod list and give you a decent base map to work with.

 

Phearable may still do this too. I've never done the mail order tune though.

 

I was not thrilled by the Phearable basemap that I got. There is no substitute for a dyno tune. Most people who love their mail order tunes have nothing other then a "butt dyno" to substantiate their claims of improved performance.

Freeman I think you summed it up nicely below.

 

No doubt, I meant the first thing I stated. I can send you a basemap through the mail for your set up and it is just a best guess based on experience. I think street tunes are very good. I think dyno tunes are better.

OP, you can buy my chipped PR3 if you want it and it's pretty much the best thing you will get for a B16A with intake, headers, exhaust without getting a dyno tune.

 

There will be little to no benefits of tuning a stock B16, especially a first gen. You'll gain launch control and you can remove the rev limiter, which I say you should probably do, as you're a very knowledgeable person regarding Hondas, and you won't break your B16. It's a super rare first gen after all.

 

ebay- The last time I got a chip for a dohc ZC. I asked for a rev limit at 9K and all I got was a basemap that didn't even support past the 8K mark. The chip was "Guaranteed" to be better than stock with high horse power gains and "WOW" you. It turned out to be a crap chip that bogged and didn't even run right. Hence a base map.

 

Yup! The map I'm running in my B16A (SiR I, i.e first gen) is pretty basic. It supports up to 9,500 RPM but my limiter is at 8,200. I have no reason to rev it that high right now. I don't run launch control either. I actually enjoy burn outs and the OBD0/OBD1 2-step launch control is meant to prevent wheel spin. Aside from that, I don't really use the CEL shift light because I have a seperate adjustable shift light. Really, and honestly, the only reason I have a chipped ECU is because I'm boosting the car and it's going to be tuned.

eBay is garbage. Stay stock or learn how to tune.

 

so would it be a good idea to chip the ecu, and do the tuning later? i'm running on exhaust(2.5 inch straight piping),and intake.

 

Chip the ECU, run a stock tune and tuning it later is fine for bolt ons like that. Lets be honest, that's all your doing right now is running the stock ECU with bolt ons. Then you can tune in later.

 

can you use a obd1 chip in a obdo ecu?

 

Nope. Explained it on your other thread too.

 

I had a bad experience with phearable as well. Even on a stock engine the right tune will make a difference, just make sure it's a reputable supplier.

 

Weird. Phearable was one of the 'reputable' suppliers that I've been told about. But I have heard more and more problems with it. It is mail order tuning after all. And without datalogging and experience it's pretty useless.

 

Like I said, have had 2 good tunes from Wicked Innovation. I heard phearable was good too, but it seems hit or miss. They had me checking many things including injectors when all I did was convert obd1 on a perfectly running car. Long story short, a friend gave me another chip and the car was magically better.

 

Yeah.... Well, I could have gave ya a chip. If I had a functioning chip burner still. Gotta buy another one.

Anyways. Definitely hit or miss I guess. Maybe it's not all the same guy doing the chipping there.