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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Been reading up and found comments on water pumps getting replaced. How doyou know when you need a replacement. Is there as scheduled replacement for the life of the pump?

What else should i do whilst the work is done to replace it ?

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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 10:37 PM
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96km tune up

change the water pump and timing belt at the same time because they are easy to do together and therefore net you a better labour cost.

also at 96km, you basically replace everything replaceable (timing belt, waterpump, cap, rotor, wires, plugs, fuel filter, oil filter, oil, rad fluid, tranny fluid, power steering check and top up, brake fluid...)

it gets expensive

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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Thanks. I'm up to 86K miles.

How much will just the waterpump cost to replace. I hear most of the cost goes to labour. Is this something i can do myself? *gasp*

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:29 AM
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Do it yourself, get a helms, not just for this service, but for the future. All of the things listed are very easy, exceot timing belt.


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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 08:28 AM
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usually you would change it every 60,000 miles when you change your timing belt
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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Change it for sure when you do the timing belt at 90K. I didn't and now I have a leaky water pump.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Is the water pump something that eventually fails all together?

Are there signs that tells you when you really should change it?

What happens if it busts?

Questions questions questions
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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the crank seal usually goes on it first, you will see green coolant leaking from it if its on its way out. I changed mine when doing the timing belt around 2/3months ago, i priced it from honda over here and they were looking $120 plus tax, so i went along to an autofactors and they had GQ ones for $60inc tax, so i asked them if i could just double check that it was the correct one before paying for it, and i brought it down to the place doing my work, and compared the two, and i found that honda buy theirs from GQ and just put them in their own packaging. It was identical down to a serial number on the inside flange!! (BTW this is europe - dont know if they do that in the US)
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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i only change stuff after it breaks...
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Is the timing belt something that really should be left to the dealer? Is it a job that is really worth the labor cost?

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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Unless you are mechanically savy, leave the timing belt service to the ACURA dealer. The timing belt is too important to your engine to let anyone else (local shop, etc.) touch it. The techs at the Acura dealers do timing belt service on Integras every day, so they have seen it all and are experts at it.

When I had my Integra done, the service included replacement of timing and all drive belts and water pump replacement. It was $650, but on a perfectly good engine was definently worth it. Some dealers also replace the idle pulley too.

You should have it done soon because, if it breaks, your engine is toast!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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You should have it done soon because, if it breaks, your engine is toast!
But see, if my engine dies I'll just make my parents buy me a new b18c5. They don't know it, and they'd prolly bitch a lot, but it'd happen.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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lol
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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But see, if my engine dies I'll just make my parents buy me a new b18c5. They don't know it, and they'd prolly bitch a lot, but it'd happen.

Ben
if you are going to say that why don't you just empty your oil and have your parents sit in the car with you when your engine dies
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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Sort of just kidding, come on now...

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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one sign of your water pump goin bad is the smell of coolant and coolant leaks. possible slight increase in temperature in your guage... some ticking noise from the bearing goin bad... these are signs. get the belts and waterpump changed when youre supposed to and youll be good to go before you ever have to do it again for maintenance purposes.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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But see, if my engine dies I'll just make my parents buy me a new b18c5. They don't know it, and they'd prolly bitch a lot, but it'd happen.

Ben
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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As everyone else has indicated, do everything at once. I just finished doing all of this over the weekend myself. One thing to think about is if you are going through all of the hassle to change all that, and are thinking about modifying and tuning, consider the idea of doing cams and gears at the same time. Makes it really easy to do it once all the other garbage is out of the way!

If you are mechanically inclined, you should not have any problem doing it yourself. Just make sure you have some of the proper tools ready:
Torque rench (Always torque EVERYTHING to spec!!)
Breaker bar, or better yet, impact wrench to get your crank pully bolt out.
Beer
Both deep and shallow sockets
Tunes
Box end wrenches
Good friend to help
more beer
etc..


I learned a whole bunch of stuff doing mine myself. In my opinion, get a friend, set aside a couple of days, and have fun! All that is being said with the understanding that you ARE mechanically inclined. There are really bad things that can happen to your powerplant if this is done improperly.

I replaced:
Cams (crower stage 2)
Seals (STR and Honda)
Water pump
Idler was fine
Radiator (Koyo)
Wires (MSD 8.5mm)
Plugs
Thermostat (you have already drained your coolant, good to do before it sticks open or shut on you)

Have fun! I know I sure did...
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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like many have said.. replace your waterpump when you replace your timing belt (at 90K)... a lot of the same labor that is involved in changing the T-belt is involved in changing the waterpump... so even if your doing it yourself.. your saving yourself a couple hours out of your weekend if you do them both at the same time...and if your paying someone to do it your saving both time and money (labor costs) by doing it at the same time... theres a lot of maintenance items to be done at 90K..along w/ the T-belt, water pump, etc.. follow/perform the 30K maintenance interval items...

my friend took her integra into the Acura dealer to have her Timing belt done.. she came out w/ a $1000+ bill.... they did the timing belt for around $550, front brakes for like $170, and 90K (30K maintenance interval) maintenance for around $350..I forget the exact numbers but I know it was over $1,000...

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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As everyone else has indicated, do everything at once. I just finished doing all of this over the weekend myself. One thing to think about is if you are going through all of the hassle to change all that, and are thinking about modifying and tuning, consider the idea of doing cams and gears at the same time. Makes it really easy to do it once all the other garbage is out of the way!

If you are mechanically inclined, you should not have any problem doing it yourself. Just make sure you have some of the proper tools ready:
Torque rench (Always torque EVERYTHING to spec!!)
Breaker bar, or better yet, impact wrench to get your crank pully bolt out.
Beer
Both deep and shallow sockets
Tunes
Box end wrenches
Good friend to help
more beer
etc..


I learned a whole bunch of stuff doing mine myself. In my opinion, get a friend, set aside a couple of days, and have fun! All that is being said with the understanding that you ARE mechanically inclined. There are really bad things that can happen to your powerplant if this is done improperly.

I replaced:
Cams (crower stage 2)
Seals (STR and Honda)
Water pump
Idler was fine
Radiator (Koyo)
Wires (MSD 8.5mm)
Plugs
Thermostat (you have already drained your coolant, good to do before it sticks open or shut on you)

Have fun! I know I sure did...
Do you go to school here in Boulder? Just wondering since I've met quite a few H-T people here in Boulder.
Peace
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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Nope, I do consulting in that area quite a bit. I am an Infrastructure Architect... a fancy way to say I design enterprise level networks and all the trimmings.
What do you drive? If I see you I will try and flag you down, and compare cars and what not. Would like to run into some people in this state that are into tegs and know what they are talking about!
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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[QUOTE]one sign of your water pump goin bad is the smell of coolant and coolant leaks. possible slight increase in temperature in your guage... some ticking noise from the bearing goin bad... these are signs. QUOTE]

What about if my exhaust manifold is glowing red hot and my temp gauge goes all the way to Hot? It happened to me on the way home yesterday. I also smell coolant.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 07:20 AM
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one sign of your water pump goin bad is the smell of coolant and coolant leaks. possible slight increase in temperature in your guage... some ticking noise from the bearing goin bad... these are signs. QUOTE]

What about if my exhaust manifold is glowing red hot and my temp gauge goes all the way to Hot? It happened to me on the way home yesterday. I also smell coolant.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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one sign of your water pump goin bad is the smell of coolant and coolant leaks. possible slight increase in temperature in your guage... some ticking noise from the bearing goin bad... these are signs. QUOTE]

What about if my exhaust manifold is glowing red hot and my temp gauge goes all the way to Hot? It happened to me on the way home yesterday. I also smell coolant.
You might have blown a head gasket

Installing the timing belt is a breeze if you have a good manual like a Helm's--besides getting the experience of doing it, you'll save a grip of $$. Helm's=about $65, Timing Belt=$50, waterpump=$112, experience=priceless. Now compare that to the dealer's $550-$650. Just did mine and took about an hour an a half. The waterpump is like 5min. since there is only like 4-6 bolts(don't remember exactly) holding it on after all the timing belt stuff is out of the way--good reason to change it out while everything else is outta way. Just my .02cents
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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So what is the tricky part about this deal? And about a clutch and flywheel install? Are there timing/alignment issues? Are they easy to deal with or will having them a little off really fock it up?

Ben
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