P0303
This is regarding a 2002 Honda Accord SE 2.3L 4 cylinder with 160,000 miles. I had a P0303 (misfire cyl #3) for a day or so that stopped on its own. A week later I now have a P0420 (catalytic system below efficiency threshold). When the P0303 was lit, the engine ran rough at idle. The P0420 is generally a steady light, but occasionally the check engine light will start flashing when stopped at a traffic light (idle 7-800), The CEL goes solid once I start driving again.
First, I replaced the plugs. Plugs were worn and had ash, which is consistent with burning some oil. (This car uses a quart of oil every 1200 miles or so.) I then checked spark to the plugs with an in-line tester. Spark seemed good.
Next checked the resistance on the fuel injectors. They were all about 10 ohms. This is 4 ohms or so lower than the minimum in my Haynes manual, but I concluded that the injectors are not the likely cause. My meter may not be that accurate and they're all about the same.
Last, I checked compression. Bad news. #4 202 lbs., #3 85 lbs., #2 194 lbs., and #1 209 lbs. Added a little oil to #3 and re-tested: #3 94 lbs.
Some history. About three years ago, experienced hesitation when accelerating from 55 mph to 70 mph, for example. Mechanic couldn't figure out why. I don't remember the details, but apparently the problem went away. Last year had acceleration problem again. Someone suggested VTEC issue. As part of my investigation, I checked the oil level. I was shocked to find it really low. I change oil every 6000 miles. An oil pressure light never came on. I suppose its my fault but the increase in oil consumption caught me by surprise. Since then I keep a close eye on the oil level, but I assume that running the car with low oil for at least a little while is probably contributing to the low compression in #3.
Haynes says the leakage is occurring at the valves or head gasket.
What is my next step? Pull off the valve cover and inspect? Any idea what a shop would charge to repair? Is this something I can do myself?
I just had shop replace right front ball joint and clean the egr valve (a previous CEL) in the last 3 months. This car is fairly clean and in good condition cosmetically, but it isn't worth so much that I want to spend a couple of thousand on this issue.
First, I replaced the plugs. Plugs were worn and had ash, which is consistent with burning some oil. (This car uses a quart of oil every 1200 miles or so.) I then checked spark to the plugs with an in-line tester. Spark seemed good.
Next checked the resistance on the fuel injectors. They were all about 10 ohms. This is 4 ohms or so lower than the minimum in my Haynes manual, but I concluded that the injectors are not the likely cause. My meter may not be that accurate and they're all about the same.
Last, I checked compression. Bad news. #4 202 lbs., #3 85 lbs., #2 194 lbs., and #1 209 lbs. Added a little oil to #3 and re-tested: #3 94 lbs.
Some history. About three years ago, experienced hesitation when accelerating from 55 mph to 70 mph, for example. Mechanic couldn't figure out why. I don't remember the details, but apparently the problem went away. Last year had acceleration problem again. Someone suggested VTEC issue. As part of my investigation, I checked the oil level. I was shocked to find it really low. I change oil every 6000 miles. An oil pressure light never came on. I suppose its my fault but the increase in oil consumption caught me by surprise. Since then I keep a close eye on the oil level, but I assume that running the car with low oil for at least a little while is probably contributing to the low compression in #3.
Haynes says the leakage is occurring at the valves or head gasket.
What is my next step? Pull off the valve cover and inspect? Any idea what a shop would charge to repair? Is this something I can do myself?
I just had shop replace right front ball joint and clean the egr valve (a previous CEL) in the last 3 months. This car is fairly clean and in good condition cosmetically, but it isn't worth so much that I want to spend a couple of thousand on this issue.
Okay, thanks. I think at this point I'm just trying to figure out if this something I want to take on. Maybe that's something I need to figure out for myself, but if anyone has any thoughts on cost, complexity, time involved, special tools needed, and the like, I'm listening.
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