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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 12:04 AM
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thinking to get a sway bar for my 06 s2k, any suggestions?
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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I just bought an Eibach and love what it's done for the car.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 03:24 PM
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another one for the eibach...made turn in ridiculous, but im not sure how it would react on an AP2
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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I can confirm dat feel on AP2.

Turn in has transformed like a boss.

Now I feel like a race car driver instead of a ***** when I swerve.
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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where i can get eibach?? on ebay or somewhere else?
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by liyan1430
where i can get eibach?? on ebay or somewhere else?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=eibach+s2000+sway+bar
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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i just found a web of eibach, is the front and rear one? front:32mm, rear 29mm

here is the web:
http://performance-suspension.eibach...ion/buy_online
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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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What are you trying to achieve by putting a sway bar on the car?

The car is naturally tail happy. Putting a rear bar on will only make that worse.

Putting a stiffer front on will balance that out and make the front end feel more planted and the weight shift from that rear tire to more of the middle of the car.

My suggestion is to ONLY put a front one one, and if it's the Eibach make sure you put it on the HARD setting (inside hole) for max front stiffness.
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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What are you trying to achieve by putting a sway bar on the car?

The car is naturally tail happy. Putting a rear bar on will only make that worse.

Putting a stiffer front on will balance that out and make the front end feel more planted and the weight shift from that rear tire to more of the middle of the car.

My suggestion is to ONLY put a front one one, and if it's the Eibach make sure you put it on the HARD setting (inside hole) for max front stiffness.
i see, i just wanna improve the car's handling even more, and i think that's enough for my daily drive need, thanks for answer my question
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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It will definitely tighten it up, but the soft OEM shock/spring combo will still wallow. That's the worst part about most OEM cars.

It's so old ladies will still buy them lol
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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:57 PM
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I have a Whiteline front sway. Made it feel more planted and the oversteer is more predictable now. I was super scared of snap oversteer before.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 03:29 AM
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I have a Whiteline front sway. Made it feel more planted and the oversteer is more predictable now. I was super scared of snap oversteer before.

snap over-steer is driver induced my friend...it has nothing to do with your suspension components or set-up...but I actually have the whiteline lower control arm brace and paired with the eibach front bar, my handling is pretty tight with almost no oversteer at all...im running a staggered set-up on my wheels too...I want to take my rear sway bar off and see how she does, but ive been battling some serious health problems for the past couple months, so I haven't been able to make it out to the track to test some things out
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 05:41 AM
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While the car coming around is driver induced, the chassis in stock form amplifies the situation.

It's technically only a faster car now, because we're all more confident in it. Put a big bar on the rear coupled with the front stuff, give it to Pat Long or Andy Lally and weep at our lack of skill.

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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:41 PM
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I know it is driver induced, but I've always been used to FWD cars that I trail-brake into a turn and mash out. Now I have to get used to driving RWD cars. Hopefully I can make it out to a track soon and figure it out.
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:01 AM
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I've always been used to FWD cars that I trail-brake into a turn and mash out.
You're doing it wrong if you're 'mashing'... don't ever simply mash anything when driving on track, just bad for the car.


Also, I have an eibach front bar with eibach springs... its a bit too soft, as I'm still getting a lot of body roll, causing the car to roll over on the tires a bit too much.

Tempted to go with a bigger bar to help out... if not stiffer springs.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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The springs and stock shocks are the cause of that. The bar is plenty stiff but it's not going to keep it handling flat when there isn't a shock and spring combo on the car that will match it.
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rota92
The springs and stock shocks are the cause of that. The bar is plenty stiff but it's not going to keep it handling flat when there isn't a shock and spring combo on the car that will match it.
Springs and shocks aren't the only cause though, but are a very strong factor for it.

a bigger bar will help increase the spring rate...
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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I was thinking of getting the eibach pro kit with the springs and both sway bars. I had pro kit springs on my 97 hatch and loved them. They improved handling and didn't compromise ride quAlity to much. So I'm Hoping the same goes for the s2000 kit. But again I am going to do the away bars as well. Any reason I should do this?
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Springs and shocks aren't the only cause though, but are a very strong factor for it.

a bigger bar will help increase the spring rate...
Sure, but what bar is going to stop the roll altogether without really unsettling the balance. We've already taken a tail happy car and made it have more forward handling bias, take much more and you might as well K-swap an EG lol
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Old Oct 14, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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that's why if its an AP1 you take the rear bar off..balances it back out
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 05:45 AM
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Sure, but it's not going to help body roll that way right? lol

IDK what we're all trying to do herre.

OP, get the front bar and a good coilover Turns the car into a different beast completely.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 07:42 AM
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Sure, but what bar is going to stop the roll altogether without really unsettling the balance.
Not trying to prevent body roll completely, trying to reduce it, by using allowable mods within the class(es) I run.

Pretty sure only autocrossers remove rear bars... most just opt for the Miata bar.
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Driven
Not trying to prevent body roll completely, trying to reduce it, by using allowable mods within the class(es) I run.

Pretty sure only autocrossers remove rear bars... most just opt for the Miata bar.

guilty as charged
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Old Oct 15, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Driven
Not trying to prevent body roll completely, trying to reduce it, by using allowable mods within the class(es) I run.

Pretty sure only autocrossers remove rear bars... most just opt for the Miata bar.
Ugh, classes.

That could have saved me some thought as to why you aren't changing more **** out
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