Hello Honda-Tech peoples! I own a 1997 LS Teggy

Im in dire need of advice from integra lovers!

So this is how my story goes; quick and simply.

One day noticed my dizzy was leaking.

Took it off and found a faulty o-ring.

Replaced it.

Put dizzy back on, car doesn't start.

Ran every time of resistane test possible.

Im 100% sure im getting spark.

Fuel pump is working great.

Car cranks good.




Alright this is where it gets tricky. I have a thick coating of gasket seal on my dizzy housing. Im 98% sure the first time i put the dizzy back on the rotor was 180* off.

Trust me it's possible. The thick coating made it seem as if the dizzy was sitting flush, but it wasnt. I remember looking at it and wondering why the hell it seems to be off. Yet, i said **** it and bolted it on as hard as i could.

So, i installed my dizzy 180* off and cranked it a few times. I did this atleast 2-3 times. As in taking it off, and putting it back on incorectly and cranking it.

Now the problem is, when cylinder 1 is at TDC, my intake camshaft is off 90*
I understand that when cylinder 1 is at TDC the dizzy rotor should be facing spark plug wire 1. So when im at TDC the end of my camshaft where the dizzy is connected is sitting horizontaly. Picture below!

How skrewed am I? And what should be my first steps i should take? Hints and some tips would be great!

When cylinder 1 is at TDC this is how the end of my intake camshaft looks like.

 

check mechanical timing I've 180 degree'd out my distributor a few times never had this problem. confirm mechanical timing then go from there you should be fine my guess you jumped a tooth or so maybe just a coincidence with the dizzy being 180 out as that should not do that.

 

Did you take the plug wires off when you did the replacement o ring?

 

Is #1 at TDC COMPRESSION? There are two possible Top-Dead-Centers, you know.

 

^yes but it's referred to a BTDC and not may ppl use that term OP mean at TDC

 

TheRealTegger means is the OP sure he is on the TDC of the compression stroke, not the exhaust stroke.94

 

Correct. Since the cams and valves are in different positions for TDC compression and TDC exhaust, that little distributor slot will be in different positions also.

OP should try rotating the engine to the other TDC in order to see if the distributor slot suddenly ends up in the correct position.

As an aside, I'm wondering why the OP would put gasket sealant on his distributor housing. This is a very strange thing, and has not yet been explained.

 

Bottom Top Dead Center? There isn't any such thing.

You have TDC (Top Dead Center) and BDC (Bottom Dead Center) , but you can't have a piston be at both the top and the bottom of the same cylinder at the same time.

 

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So today after turning over the engine here and there, i noticed when the Distributor rotor is verticle and is facing towards spark plug one, my crank pulley is set a BTDC. (3 markings)

Also when i did a compression test with a straw and using my thumb, I had most compression when the red mark on the pulley was aligned to the engine block tach. (dizzy was sitting perfectly verticle facing to spark plug one.)

Whats going on here? I thought when its TDC on the compression stroke the white mark should align on the pulley and engine block?

 

You wanna post a picture of this "perfectly vertical" thing? The #1 cylinder contact is NOT at the "perfectly vertical" position.

 

typo on my part plus was super tired realtegger is correct I was thinking of something else.

 

When the rotor end of the distributor is verticle, the metal piece on the rotor is facing towards spark plug 1. Do you seriously need a picture to understand that?

 

the slot is supposed to be up/down not sideways like in your pic. when mechanical timing is at TDC

 

if you havent touched anything else wouldnt the simple fix be pull the dizzy turn 180 degrees from where it was and reinstall it?...and tdc on #1 the crank pulley marks will face up when on compression

 

That's the confusing thing: That mark also faces up on TDC exhaust.

Relying only on that mark alone is a good way to get things backwards. The crank TDC mark needs to be matched with the cam slot and the distributor rotor position.

In this case I'd also be inclined to pull the valve cover so that I could see the cam pulley arrows, as well as making sure the #1 cylinder's valves are closed and the cams off their lobes, which would confirm that #1 is on TDC compression.

 

What if what you're calling plug #1 isn't actually plug #1? That's what my picture request is meant to clarify.

Your use of the word "vertical" (note spelling) is what's confusing me. "Vertical" would mean pointing up to the sky, distributor turned 90-degrees from its normal position. The rotor is normally in a horizontal position, as is the rest of the distributor.

 

True storey, I swapped my engine one month after buying my integra and couldnt figure out why it wouldnt start. I knew whatthe order on the distributor was but though cylinder 4 was 1. It started....while spitting and backfiring like a bitch.

Op, the distributor only fits one way, my guess is that you have the firing order wrong or have cyl 1 and cyl 4 mixed up.

 

NOW i know the dizzy only goes in one way, and i had to find that out the hard way!

I put the dizzy in, and it didn't fit in PERFECTLY, but i bolted it on anyways.

Maybe to clear some things up, the Distributor was sitting perfects, but the rotor is what i put in 180 degrees off.

 

You cant put the rotor in 180 out either. It has a set screw and afaik it only has one opening to put the screw in.