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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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I have a 2002 civic. I had a couple of engine codes, P-0335 and P-0336. I have replaced the crank sensor already, and when I unplugged the old one there was a lot of corrosion inside of the connector. Now I have only the P-0336 code, that I believe to be an intermittent signal from the sensor. I am looking to get another connector, but I was told by a Honda dealer that they only sell them as a complete wiring harness.
Is this true?
Any assistance is finding a new, or good used, connector would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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A decade plus ago, I worked in a Honda dealership parts department, we did have a Honda oem terminal kit, not sure if your required terminal would be in that kit. Can also get one from a recycler who is willing to let you cut up a harness. Check to see if any aftermarket suppliers have made repair pigtail harnesses.
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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I have not heard about a terminal kit before. I did talk with several junk yard today, and the were not willing to cut any of their harnesses.
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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-Check local CL for parts cars
-eBay
-nationwide salvage listings: http://www.car-part.com/ You can find a whole harness for about $50
-cheapest parts in the land (if one is near you): http://www.picknpull.com/check_inventory.aspx It'll cost ya about $2 to snip that connector off
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Crank Position Sensor Connector Needed

like I said in the first post, my car is a 2002 civic with the 1.7 motor. what other years have the same motor? that way I can hopefully find a car at Picknpull that will have the right connector.
Thanks for all of everyone's help.
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Old Sep 4, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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2001-2005
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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Are there any other models included, or just the civic?
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Old Sep 5, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Take sample, or a picture of sample and look at similar year Honda and Acura products. Pick and Pull will let you cut off pigtails, or some one with a parts engine may still have a harness on theirs.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 07:14 AM
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OK, I have changed the sensor twice and the connector. I am still getting the P0336 code. which I believe to be an intermittant signal. I have a milti-meter, so does anyone know what the readings should be at the connector?
Or, does anyone have any suggestions on what is the cause of the code?
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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1. Disconnect the connector and turn the ignition to ON (II)


2. On the harness side of the connector, measure for voltage from the yellow/black wire to body ground

Is there battery voltage?

YES- step 3

NO- Repair the open in the wire between PGM-FI relay 1 and the CKP sensor


3. Harness side of the connector, measure for voltage from the Blue to body ground

Is there about 5V?

YES- step 4

NO- step 6


4. Harness side, measure voltage from yellow/black to brown/yellow

Is there battery voltage?

YES- step 5

NO- Repair open between CKP sensor and G101 (ground from engine to core support)


5. Substitute a known-good CKP sensor and recheck for codes.

Is DTC P0335 or P0336 indicated?

YES- Update or replace the ECM/PCM

NO- replace the original sensor


6. Measure voltage between ECM/PCM connector terminal A7 (Blue) to body ground (your back-probing here)

Is there about 5V?

YES- Repair open between ECM/PCM A7 and the CKP sensor

NO- step 7


7. Turn the ignition OFF and disconnect ECM/PCM connector A


8. Harness side of the connector, measure for continuity (Ohms) from A7 (Blue) to body ground

Is there continuity?

YES- Repair short in the wire between ECM/PCM A7 and the CKP sensor

NO- Update or replace the ECM/PCM


NOTE: ECM/PCM connector A is the bottom connector when your looking at the ECM/PCM inside the dash. It's a 31 pin connector.
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Old Sep 16, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Thanks, I will let you know what I find.
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Old Sep 17, 2013 | 07:01 AM
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OK. I conducted the procedures listed above and everything seems to be OK. I still get the P0336 code and the car is still in limp mode. When I checked the yellow/black wire for battery voltage, it only showed 11.7 volts. I then checked the battery for voltage and it also only had 11.7 volts. I know this is a little low. Could this low voltage make the sensor not operate correctly? I have used both of the new sensors I have with negative results. Could both of the new sensors both be bad?
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Well, the car is fixed. The problem was the 2 aftermarket sensors I purchased. As noted by someone on this forum, "DON'T BUY ANYTHING BUT GENUINE HONDA PARTS".
If I would have taken that advise, I would have been done a long time age.
thanks for everyones time and assistance in helping me fix the car, I appreciate it.
thanks again.
Later, Jeff.
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