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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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Well here it is I recently posted that I'm working on a 94 & 02 accord coupe project at the same time and I'm a newbie thus is my first project and I'm VERY savvy and learn quick but I don't have a lot of off hand knowledge... Well a friend told me I should get a k24 short block for the 02 and everyone in my class was very excited with comments like that would be bad a$$ and dude THAT'S a change u want... Well unbeknownst to them as I sat there and said ya that would be cool I didn't think about that... I was thinking in my head wtf is that??? So Laff if ya want but wat is that and what's it mean and ANYTHING I SHOULD KNOW? B4 I try this? Lol laff if ya want I'm being honest we all gotta learn for the first time at some point.... Lol
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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So what are you asking here? You want to know what a K24 short block is? Well in most areas the term "short block" is just the bottom end of the engine. It's from the head gasket down.

A K24 is a 2.4L Honda engine. It came in the 2002-2013 CR-V, Crosstour, Element, TSX and Accord chassis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K24

I would say that you actually want a complete K24 engine, not just a short block. And I sure hope that you have deep pockets. It's not a cheap swap to drop one into a 6th gen 98-02 Accord. You need a complete swap, including engine, transmission, mounts, drive shafts, hubs, wire harness and ECU.... i may have missed a few things in there. The mounts and other stuff will more than likely have to be custom fabricated.

It would definitely be a cool swap!
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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Not to sound like a a-hole but if you have to ask then you most likely don't posses the skills or knowledge to do this swap. You dont even list which K24 you plan to use.
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Ur right I don't posses the skills to do the swap myself YET I never claimed to b a mechanic nor would I ever but is Honda-tech not the place to learn what I need to learn to attempt??? I don't think u sound like an ahole at all I think u sound like a person who limits himself to the knowledge he has and doesn't venture into learning something new and bettering himself mentally... Not to sound like a dbag... What I do know is my best attribute has ALWAYS been learning new things... So ppl like you are the reason I excel in life and accomplish the things u think u can't AND the things u already have... With EASE... So if you can't ADD to my life or knowledge then do me a favor and SUBTRACT YOURSELF... ;-)
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 11:13 PM
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So what are you asking here? You want to know what a K24 short block is? Well in most areas the term "short block" is just the bottom end of the engine. It's from the head gasket down.

A K24 is a 2.4L Honda engine. It came in the 2002-2013 CR-V, Crosstour, Element, TSX and Accord chassis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K24

I would say that you actually want a complete K24 engine, not just a short block. And I sure hope that you have deep pockets. It's not a cheap swap to drop one into a 6th gen 98-02 Accord. You need a complete swap, including engine, transmission, mounts, drive shafts, hubs, wire harness and ECU.... i may have missed a few things in there. The mounts and other stuff will more than likely have to be custom fabricated.

It would definitely be a cool swap!
Well then I just learned ALOT about that topic in a short hr I read up on it thanks MY FRIEND for adding to my intellect... I greatly appreciate it and ill b considering what u said and if u want to give any suggestions as to what other routes I may go for the future please do go right on ahead... Like I said b4 I'm a open book with blank pages waiting to be filled... If u ever have ANY questions ask away be it about cars or ANYTHING else... I'm a welder and the name is ant
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Old Aug 5, 2013 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
So what are you asking here? You want to know what a K24 short block is? Well in most areas the term "short block" is just the bottom end of the engine. It's from the head gasket down.

A K24 is a 2.4L Honda engine. It came in the 2002-2013 CR-V, Crosstour, Element, TSX and Accord chassis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K24

I would say that you actually want a complete K24 engine, not just a short block. And I sure hope that you have deep pockets. It's not a cheap swap to drop one into a 6th gen 98-02 Accord. You need a complete swap, including engine, transmission, mounts, drive shafts, hubs, wire harness and ECU.... i may have missed a few things in there. The mounts and other stuff will more than likely have to be custom fabricated.

It would definitely be a cool swap!
BTW my coupe has a 2.3 vtec and my woman's does also but what's the diff between the ulev and the Dohc hers said one mine the other
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 06:05 AM
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Welcome aboard ant. What type of welding do you do? Just curious becuase I'm a Pipefitter.

ULEV is a Califonia emissions SOHC F23A4 VTEC engine, designed for emissions and fuel economy. As far as the other engine. Are you sure it's a DOHC 2.3L VTEC? The 94-97 Accords came equipped with the 2.2L SOHC F22B1 VTEC. If you have a 2.3L DOHC VTEC then your engine has been swapped. You now have ether an 2.3L DOHC H23A or someone has swapped the SOHC cylinder head for a DOHC VTEC head.

Can you post pictures of these engines?

If you want to know the engine you have in your car. The codes are found stamped onto the engine block. Located to the left of the exhaust manifold below the radiator hose.

This is a SOHC 2.2L Non VTEC F22B2 engine out of the 94-97 DX/LX Accords.

Engine swaps are not that difficult if you take your time and do your research before hand. This will help ensure that you have all of the proper parts before you start the project. Having the correct tools for the job is another big factor. Every project should start with finding the manuals and wiring diagrams. You should always try to find the Honda shop manuals for both of the vehicles/engines you are planning to be swapping/working on.
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 06:16 AM
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If you already have a 2.3 dohc motor,why not build on that?

To go k24 is probably not worth the time,money and effort

Laff if u want.
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sheist42
Ur right I don't posses the skills to do the swap myself YET I never claimed to b a mechanic nor would I ever but is Honda-tech not the place to learn what I need to learn to attempt??? I don't think u sound like an ahole at all I think u sound like a person who limits himself to the knowledge he has and doesn't venture into learning something new and bettering himself mentally... Not to sound like a dbag... What I do know is my best attribute has ALWAYS been learning new things... So ppl like you are the reason I excel in life and accomplish the things u think u can't AND the things u already have... With EASE... So if you can't ADD to my life or knowledge then do me a favor and SUBTRACT YOURSELF... ;-)
I am far from what you think I am. I can tell you for sure in the years that I have been in the accord community (07-08ish) I have seen kids like you come and go very quickly. Most kids like yourself don't do any actual research on things on topics that have been beaten to death sometimes almost weekly (like your h22 swap question thread) and expect to get spoon fed and will end up overpaying on a mickey moused and/or unfinished "project" (which i can easily see happening with a k24 swap in your case, especially if you don't know the difference between the accord k24 or the TSX k24 or even a short block from a long block, both of which have info all over the internet and one being the wiki link ghost posted)

If your best attributes is learning new things you should learn how to use the search button for topics

I am friends with the owner of the first legitimate k24 swapped CD (was in the last issue of Honda-Tuning Magazine) and I am friends with the owner of the first and ONLY street driven J swapped CD accord (soon to be one of 2 by my other friend whom is swapping in a j35)..I only try to hang around with people who push the envelope in the accord community

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Old Aug 11, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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Well I've been bz getting things done and its funny to see that last comment being as that's EXACTLY what I've been doing using the "search button"... Interesting all the different series of engines. Soooooo on that note WOLFY which fits u perfect being as ur SOOOOO FIESTY... Lmao... Anyways I just BOUGHT a civic (ek series) coupe that means 02 doggy I learned something new on Wikipedia:wink: and it has a pmr vtec or would it b considered a ha being that's the last 2 letters idk ur slang so teach me instead of preaching to me.... But ya while u been living online I been making that which makes the world turn... That's $ wolf... Btw I'm no where near being a kid... I def don't live with mommy n daddy and I grew up in a 3rd world country and have survived more then ull ever imagine and find myself with all I have today (thank the almighty). Life's good and its NEVER BEEN EZ... Unlike YOUR spoon fed past I'm sure... Just by ur attitude I can tell ur one of those same spoon fed kids u speak of so just leave me b. ur better then me because u been ONLINE at Honda tech since 06 that just shows u have NO LIFE AND NO AMBITION... Cause if I'm on a web page for 4-5 years I'm trying to own that **** or b partners....

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU?
YOU TALK A GOOD ONE BUT YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOUR SUPPOSED TO DO...
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Welcome aboard ant. What type of welding do you do? Just curious becuase I'm a Pipefitter.

ULEV is a Califonia emissions SOHC F23A4 VTEC engine, designed for emissions and fuel economy. As far as the other engine. Are you sure it's a DOHC 2.3L VTEC? The 94-97 Accords came equipped with the 2.2L SOHC F22B1 VTEC. If you have a 2.3L DOHC VTEC then your engine has been swapped. You now have ether an 2.3L DOHC H23A or someone has swapped the SOHC cylinder head for a DOHC VTEC head.

Can you post pictures of these engines?

If you want to know the engine you have in your car. The codes are found stamped onto the engine block. Located to the left of the exhaust manifold below the radiator hose.

This is a SOHC 2.2L Non VTEC F22B2 engine out of the 94-97 DX/LX Accords.

Engine swaps are not that difficult if you take your time and do your research before hand. This will help ensure that you have all of the proper parts before you start the project. Having the correct tools for the job is another big factor. Every project should start with finding the manuals and wiring diagrams. You should always try to find the Honda shop manuals for both of the vehicles/engines you are planning to be swapping/working on.
No sir what I said was the dual overhead is on the 02 maybe I wrote it incorrectly but I have recently decided that I'm going to keep that because after MUCH research I learned that this may be my best bet as the guy with the Chris rock avatar stated... DEFINATLEY ain't laughing at u. For saying that btw it makes more sense to keep this and build on it. So I recently talked a guy into trading his 02 coupe (body he keeps the engine) which is fine by me because it was automatic anyway... And I'm just going to go hog wild on doing my own lil craziness.... I ALSO aquired a 02 civic coupe last Monday it drives ok got the lil vtec it's a pmr ha but idk if ima keep it Ckuz I ain't into automatics... Idk well see what happens....
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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Anyone ever hear of a Hyundai elantra with a pmr-ha engine? Because I DO happen to have a Hyundai elantra that's automatic it's my family car so I just thought about that as I wrote that last reply if its never been done THAT might be cool.... Whatcha think????
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sheist42
Anyone ever hear of a Hyundai elantra with a pmr-ha engine? Because I DO happen to have a Hyundai elantra that's automatic it's my family car so I just thought about that as I wrote that last reply if its never been done THAT might be cool.... Whatcha think????
lol Modding a Hyundai..
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sheist42
No sir what I said was the dual overhead is on the 02 maybe I wrote it incorrectly but I have recently decided that I'm going to keep that because after MUCH research I learned that this may be my best bet as the guy with the Chris rock avatar stated... DEFINATLEY ain't laughing at u. For saying that btw it makes more sense to keep this and build on it. So I recently talked a guy into trading his 02 coupe (body he keeps the engine) which is fine by me because it was automatic anyway... And I'm just going to go hog wild on doing my own lil craziness.... I ALSO aquired a 02 civic coupe last Monday it drives ok got the lil vtec it's a pmr ha but idk if ima keep it Ckuz I ain't into automatics... Idk well see what happens....
You don't have a DOHC 2.3L in the '02 Accord. Doesn't exist. In fact, you don't even have a DOHC at all in the 98-02 Accords (including the V6 J32)

You need to pause what you're doing and actually think things through before randomly going off on tangents and trying to modify 300 vehicles at once. I'll second wolfy's concerns that if you're asking those questions and aren't capable to Google them you probably shouldn't be attempting to do the swap. I say that because this isn't a remove one engine and the other bolts right up type swap. You're looking at custom harnesses, tuning, etc that all have to be done and thought out - it isn't some weekend hack job.

Projects get expensive quick, do some research on your own and post up intelligent on-topic questions and I guarantee you'll get answers. Posting up "Lol K24z is wut Im doin" isn't helping anyone including yourself.

The Accord FAQ at the top has links to several swap threads for the H-series motors as well as additional mods. I'd suggest going into those first.
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