Ive got a Y7 and i think the water pump is out. if you park it it will leak a good amount of coolant out fron the front of the motor behind the crank pulley. I was going to pull the valve cover and upper timing cover tonight but my dad start yelling at me and told me he will fix it when he gets a chance and dosent want to have to come behind me and fix my f*** ups. Im 17 almost 18 work in a body shop and have a decent understanding of how to turn a wrench. is what im trying to do harded than what i think. I know im going to need help when i put the timing belt on but all i want to do is confirm the water pump is my leak order my parts and let it sit until my parts come in and my dad gets his head on stright to help me.

 

so whats the question? is it hard to remove the timing belt cover?
is it hard to change?

 

Look up how to do it or read a Manuel. Then you can answer the question yourself. It's hard for some people and easy for others.

 

what i meant was is it hard to remove the uper timing cover and when i do get it off will i be able to see the water pump and see if thats whats leaking

 

The water pump is below the upper timing cover. You'll need to remove the lower timing cover to get to it. In order to remove the lower cover you'll need to remove the crank pulley. In order to remove the crank pulley, you'll need to remove the accessory belts attached to it, etc. There's a few more steps but you understand...

Snowball effect.

It's not difficult. The deciding factor is if you can easily remove the crank pulley, they tend to be torqued on there really good. You'll also need to loosen and partially remove the timing belt. If you've never timed a car, you may want to listen to your dad. You may destroy the engine if you reinstall things incorrectly.

 

http://mechdb.com/index.php/Honda_Ci...lt_replacement

 

I thought i would be able to see the water pump from the top so thats my misunderstanding. my dad just yells and never want to explain anything so i never learn. i just hand him a wrench when he asks for it. and now i got my own car i really want to learn but its turning in to me staning and watching again. I did put my own radio and sub in it so i did learn on that. Thanks for your help. I need to get it running. the Impala ive been driving has killed me this week on fuel and its only Tuesday. im missing the 34 i was getting in the civic

 

Grab from google. You should be able to find part to.
But it's pretty easy to Change the water pump.

 

Nothing like wrenching to promote quality father and son time. My son is almost 17, yesterday him and I put on an a/c idler pulley and re-tensioned a couple belts. He wants to learn how to work on cars and I am at an intermediate level. We sat down together and went over some older HT post on the matter and it was good beginner level task. I let him try to do as much of the monkey work as possible while I helped him along verbally. He did good and the repair went smooth until after we got it all together there was a washer on the garage floor after we backed the car out.

The washer went between the nut and the tensioner pulley. I didn't get upset with him as I have been there myself a few times in the past. He said why can't we just leave it off? I explained to him it's purpose and value then we tore it down again and put back the right way. The second time it took longer as neither of us have tiny Asian hands and the a/c belt kept slipping off the center pulley. We live in Florida and it was hot and muggy in the garage and my fat *** started sweating and was getting agitated. A bunch of sweat, frustration and F-bombs later (none directed at him..only the limited work space) we finished. I told my son that he did a good job and let it be a lesson to be careful when removing parts, storing parts, replacing parts.

Unfortunately I have to re-tension it again and remove and return the idler pulley I bought as the old one is still good. The repetition will be good for him. I kinda know where your pops is coming from if he works a lot and the last thing he wants to do is work on your car, his car or anyone else's for that matter. However, if you approach from an angle that you are eager to learn and you want him to guide you so you won't screw it up, he may be more receptive.

As far as finding the leak raise the front end on jacks and look from underneath. If it is the water-pump and your timing belt has been on for 60,000 miles or more you should change that and all the belts too. If you buy a timing belt kit a water pump is often included. Amazon sells the full kit, but try to get as many OEM parts within the kit as possible. A kit like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Timing-Belt-Kit-Honda-Civic-96-00-1-6-Water-Pump-Seals-/360350196406?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BFICS%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D160727826622%26ps%3D54 or comparable.

 

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OP it's an easy task....BUT there are always snags I just did my t belt on my dx the lower cover is held on my several 10mm bolts most of which are really hard to get at. also getting the crank pulley off can be a big pain I recommend you read first.

 

heres what im ordering and then a radiator threw keystone at work (only $48!!!!) http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriser0/9406301126/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriser0/9403542805/
I really want to do the work with some guidance but dad is always like ill just do it go get me tools. I love working on stuff like this and learning. Like today i put a valve cover gasket on a lawn mower at work. it was cork and i killed it and im sure it will leak again. but i didnt know and i learned. I did shocks on my uncles truck and it took me a while but I could do it again faster.

 

Just reiterate to your pops that you want learn the right way with his guidance and that you don't want to have to come to him in the future each time because he didn't take the time to guide you in the first place. Wrenching on cars is not just about the repair, it's about developing logical thinking, patience, learning a variety of tools and enjoying the feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction when the repair or upgrade is completed.

My son has been asking me a lot of auto repair and performance upgrade questions for the past few months and I am happy too share what knowledge I do have with him. However, nothing makes for knowledge better than hands on. We have a local technical institute that has a year and half auto mechanic/ body work program and he wants to attend this year if possible, and if not then in his senior year 2014/15.

 

I ask performance question and get asked back "why would you want to make a crap car fast' ill just tell him i want to learn so i dont have to rely on you as much. Thanks for the help. did those parts look like what ill need for this?

 

My engine in the olden days...



That is what you are most likely gonna see when you take off the upper timing belt cover.

 

the link telecaster posted are what you need however I went OEM Honda on the parts as I know they'll fit 100% and last longer you do pay a bit more tho.

 

next time you and your dad are in the garage just play the doors song, "the end", let him know whose boss. you're almost 18, dont take that ****.

 

yea everything in those pictures are oe i think

 

OE-Replacement not OEM Honda there's a big difference, my oem Honda t-belt cost almost as much as that whole kit...just saying. The other stuff will work just won't last as long/fit as well if you have the money, go for it if not the other stuff works to.

 

I thought gates was the same as OEM. and i know who my dad reminds me of, its grumblemarc.

 

Had the same thing happen on my car. Leaked from the weep hole.

The job itself isn't all that difficult. I went into it blind and came out just fine. As long as you have a basic understanding it won't be too bad.

Getting the crank pulley is the biggest bitch of the job.

I bought a kit like this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1996-2000-Honda-Civic-Timing-Belt-Water-Pump-Kit-/261099653939?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ccac08b33&vxp=mtr

 

It is, I looked at that ebay link and I didn't see gates meh I see nothing wrong with it I just feel safer with OEM Honda parts as I've had one to may mishaps with partsource/autozone/AA brand items.

 

Gates made the OEM timing belt.

 

The kit you posted contains all OEM Honda items the one the other guy posted was a OE replacement kit about a 50-60$ difference. I still have yet to run into a fitment issue with a Genuine Honda part

 

I'll gladly spend the $50-60 and go with OEM parts.

$50-60 isn't worth my time taking the car back apart to replace the aftermarket parts that failed which they are well known to do.

 

Allow me to breakdown my previous post and clear up any confusion. Here is what I said: "If it is the water-pump and your timing belt has been on for 60,000 miles or more you should change that (timing belt) and all the (accessory: a/c, steering pump,alternator) belts too. If you buy a timing belt kit a water pump is often included. Amazon sells the full kit, but try to get as many OEM parts within the kit as possible. A kit like this or comparable"

Although Chriser0 did not state an intention to change the timing belt or other belts in his original post it generally considered worthwhile changing out all (a/c, steering pump,alternator) older belts during a timing belt replacement.

The kit I posted was just an example of several comparable type kits sold on Amazon or Ebay. Here's a link to several more http://www.ebay.com/sch/Timing-Compo...%2520Aspirated

I purchased and installed this particular kit 10,000 miles ago and haven't had any issues. The kit I purchased included a Contitech timing belt, NPW water pump and Bando accessory belts as well as the tensioner and seals. I read through reviews on various sites including HT and threads concerning those particular brands/part# before I purchased the kit and the reviews were very positive. I knew that soon after the timing belt I was going to do a valve lash adjustment and the valve cover gasket, spark plug ring gaskets and cam seal would be used from that kit.

The kit that 98civdx linked to is the OEM and as I stated try to get as many OEM parts as possible. I would consider that as the "best" kit while the kit I linked as "very good". The kit he linked didn't include a tensioner or valve cover gasket set so add another $30 if you purchase those. You'll definitely want to replace the tensioner anyway ($15-$20).