1994 honda accord Short Ram or CAI?
hey whats up honda-tech. i have a 94 honda accord and i cant decide whether to put on a short ram intake or a cold air intake system. which one will give me more power and any good brands but arent that expense? and i heard that cold air intakes are vunerable to water and is there any way to protect the filter while getting horsepower.
The problem with this test is that it was on a turbo car. The intercooler determines the temp of the air going into the throttle body. I would like to see the same test done on an NA car, say a Gen 5 Prelude.
No real gains in power on a stock engine, and if you are like me your MPG will actually suffer as I am addicted to the sound. A SRI has an amazing snort sound to it when you give it a good snap. But unfortunately it doesn't equate to more power to the wheels, jsut a heavier foot!
SRI 96 Accord Vid
SRI 96 Accord Vid
No real gains in power on a stock engine, and if you are like me your MPG will actually suffer as I am addicted to the sound. A SRI has an amazing snort sound to it when you give it a good snap. But unfortunately it doesn't equate to more power to the wheels, jsut a heavier foot!
SRI 96 Accord Vid

SRI 96 Accord Vid

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Makes no difference but as others have said the sound is addicting. Go in a tunnel or between tall walls, open up the windows, second gear and give it some juice. And yes, MPgs do suffer because of it.
I love my TB intake haha, no piping, it runs right off the TB. Lost only .5 horse at the beginning of the run for a couple hundred (2000rpm starting point) but it leveled back up immediately after that. It only heatsoaks on very heavy runs in high temps (85F+ ambient).
I'd say go CAI if the weather in your area is permitting. Safe side or the weather sucks, SRI.
I'd say go CAI if the weather in your area is permitting. Safe side or the weather sucks, SRI.
I run a factory prelude intake tube to the factory accord airbox with the in bumper resonator removed. Going with a prelude box if I can find one. I prefer the factory design, the enclosed box acts as a pre-throttle plenum and is designed with pressure waves and resonance in mind to produce a better torque curve. Id love to find a box with a larger capacity to fit a better filter+velocity stack. The prelude factory Intakes are a pretty efficient design with larger tubing diameter, a nice helmholtz chamber, and pretty big airbox.
Larger isn't always better. Our stock F22 air box has also been designed using Helmholtz resonance tuning. If you go too big, the air will stall and you might as well do away with the air box entirely. They are designed for optimum performance and emissions on the stock engine. A Prelude air box may be too big for an engine that hits peak at 4500. Considering the Prelude hits peak at 6800.
F22B = 168CFM @ 5500rpm (peak hp)
H22A = 233CFM @ 6800rpm (peak hp)
So unless you have an H22 swapped Accord or an F22 that makes power up to 6800rpm the Prelude air box may not be of any benefit over using CAI with a cone filter on it. Depends on the length and diameter of the intake tube and filter.
If you're up to it I would love to see a dyno comparison though.
F22B = 168CFM @ 5500rpm (peak hp)
H22A = 233CFM @ 6800rpm (peak hp)
So unless you have an H22 swapped Accord or an F22 that makes power up to 6800rpm the Prelude air box may not be of any benefit over using CAI with a cone filter on it. Depends on the length and diameter of the intake tube and filter.
If you're up to it I would love to see a dyno comparison though.
Larger isn't always better. Our stock F22 air box has also been designed using Helmholtz resonance tuning. If you go too big, the air will stall and you might as well do away with the air box entirely. They are designed for optimum performance and emissions on the stock engine. A Prelude air box may be too big for an engine that hits peak at 4500. Considering the Prelude hits peak at 6800.
F22B = 168CFM @ 5500rpm (peak hp)
H22A = 233CFM @ 6800rpm (peak hp)
So unless you have an H22 swapped Accord or an F22 that makes power up to 6800rpm the Prelude air box may not be of any benefit over using CAI with a cone filter on it. Depends on the length and diameter of the intake tube and filter.
If you're up to it I would love to see a dyno comparison though.
F22B = 168CFM @ 5500rpm (peak hp)
H22A = 233CFM @ 6800rpm (peak hp)
So unless you have an H22 swapped Accord or an F22 that makes power up to 6800rpm the Prelude air box may not be of any benefit over using CAI with a cone filter on it. Depends on the length and diameter of the intake tube and filter.
If you're up to it I would love to see a dyno comparison though.

You want an intake for the brand name? That's as stupid as saying you want a roll bar for street cred. Buy a cheap intake and stick an AEM sticker on it, nobody is going to be impressed with your cold air intake.
I bought a two piece CAI for $43 on eBay and am very happy with it. If I become worried about a rainy season I can take a piece off and make it into a short ram. From my experience the SRI is louder at lower rpm. I like my CAI because it sounds almost stock until I get into it or get beyond 3000 rpm, so when ppl come for a ride they are pleasantly surprised when I push it. I don't know how much actual power I've gained. It seems like I might have got a couple extra hp but definitely more throttle response.
I bought a two piece CAI for $43 on eBay and am very happy with it. If I become worried about a rainy season I can take a piece off and make it into a short ram. From my experience the SRI is louder at lower rpm. I like my CAI because it sounds almost stock until I get into it or get beyond 3000 rpm, so when ppl come for a ride they are pleasantly surprised when I push it. I don't know how much actual power I've gained. It seems like I might have got a couple extra hp but definitely more throttle response.
The guy is wondering which one to buy, not whether to buy or not. Obviously spending as little as possible for the "sound effect" and flash would be the best choice.
I completely get that, I'm just restating the fact that you won't make much power if any at all with one.
i was thinking of just doing a drop in filter with factory airbox if anything. ive learned from previous cars you dont really get that noticeable of a gain..
Thanks, we covered that multiple times.
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