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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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hey whats up honda-tech. i have a 94 honda accord and i cant decide whether to put on a short ram intake or a cold air intake system. which one will give me more power and any good brands but arent that expense? and i heard that cold air intakes are vunerable to water and is there any way to protect the filter while getting horsepower.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 04:13 AM
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Mighty car mods did an episode on this.

not saying they're right, not saying they're wrong, just thought I'd share
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 05:55 AM
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The problem with this test is that it was on a turbo car. The intercooler determines the temp of the air going into the throttle body. I would like to see the same test done on an NA car, say a Gen 5 Prelude.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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I've been with SRI ever since I step in the set. Never had a problem.

TBH, you'll be lucky to see more than 4whp.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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You won't make any additional power. It will sound like a vacuum cleaner, but you won't gain any power. Go with whatever you think looks coolest.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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No real gains in power on a stock engine, and if you are like me your MPG will actually suffer as I am addicted to the sound. A SRI has an amazing snort sound to it when you give it a good snap. But unfortunately it doesn't equate to more power to the wheels, jsut a heavier foot!

SRI 96 Accord Vid


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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
No real gains in power on a stock engine, and if you are like me your MPG will actually suffer as I am addicted to the sound. A SRI has an amazing snort sound to it when you give it a good snap. But unfortunately it doesn't equate to more power to the wheels, jsut a heavier foot!

SRI 96 Accord Vid


I have still yet to no giggle whenever you post that video.. lol
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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I would just get an Ebay intake. You get a 3" piping and can replace the cheap filter for an AEM dryflow one. Perfect combo there.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nus_dogg
I would just get an Ebay intake. You get a 3" piping and can replace the cheap filter for an AEM dryflow one. Perfect combo there.
Heck or go to your local junk yard and find some exhaust piping. Picked up a section of a stainless exhaust that was on a Civic, cleaned it, polished it, and made a custom intake for my friends BB6.

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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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Makes no difference but as others have said the sound is addicting. Go in a tunnel or between tall walls, open up the windows, second gear and give it some juice. And yes, MPgs do suffer because of it.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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I love my TB intake haha, no piping, it runs right off the TB. Lost only .5 horse at the beginning of the run for a couple hundred (2000rpm starting point) but it leveled back up immediately after that. It only heatsoaks on very heavy runs in high temps (85F+ ambient).

I'd say go CAI if the weather in your area is permitting. Safe side or the weather sucks, SRI.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 10:26 AM
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I run a factory prelude intake tube to the factory accord airbox with the in bumper resonator removed. Going with a prelude box if I can find one. I prefer the factory design, the enclosed box acts as a pre-throttle plenum and is designed with pressure waves and resonance in mind to produce a better torque curve. Id love to find a box with a larger capacity to fit a better filter+velocity stack. The prelude factory Intakes are a pretty efficient design with larger tubing diameter, a nice helmholtz chamber, and pretty big airbox.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Larger isn't always better. Our stock F22 air box has also been designed using Helmholtz resonance tuning. If you go too big, the air will stall and you might as well do away with the air box entirely. They are designed for optimum performance and emissions on the stock engine. A Prelude air box may be too big for an engine that hits peak at 4500. Considering the Prelude hits peak at 6800.

F22B = 168CFM @ 5500rpm (peak hp)
H22A = 233CFM @ 6800rpm (peak hp)

So unless you have an H22 swapped Accord or an F22 that makes power up to 6800rpm the Prelude air box may not be of any benefit over using CAI with a cone filter on it. Depends on the length and diameter of the intake tube and filter.

If you're up to it I would love to see a dyno comparison though.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GhostAccord
Larger isn't always better. Our stock F22 air box has also been designed using Helmholtz resonance tuning. If you go too big, the air will stall and you might as well do away with the air box entirely. They are designed for optimum performance and emissions on the stock engine. A Prelude air box may be too big for an engine that hits peak at 4500. Considering the Prelude hits peak at 6800.

F22B = 168CFM @ 5500rpm (peak hp)
H22A = 233CFM @ 6800rpm (peak hp)

So unless you have an H22 swapped Accord or an F22 that makes power up to 6800rpm the Prelude air box may not be of any benefit over using CAI with a cone filter on it. Depends on the length and diameter of the intake tube and filter.

If you're up to it I would love to see a dyno comparison though.
I signed up for a dyno day at a local shop to get a baseline in about a month. I'll let you know what it puts down!
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 1994 honda accord Short Ram or CAI?

thanks for the help[ fellas still thinking on what to get are there any cheap brand names thats under $100
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by portugueboy10
thanks for the help[ fellas still thinking on what to get are there any cheap brand names thats under $100
You want an intake for the brand name? That's as stupid as saying you want a roll bar for street cred. Buy a cheap intake and stick an AEM sticker on it, nobody is going to be impressed with your cold air intake.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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I bought a two piece CAI for $43 on eBay and am very happy with it. If I become worried about a rainy season I can take a piece off and make it into a short ram. From my experience the SRI is louder at lower rpm. I like my CAI because it sounds almost stock until I get into it or get beyond 3000 rpm, so when ppl come for a ride they are pleasantly surprised when I push it. I don't know how much actual power I've gained. It seems like I might have got a couple extra hp but definitely more throttle response.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamsItIn
I bought a two piece CAI for $43 on eBay and am very happy with it. If I become worried about a rainy season I can take a piece off and make it into a short ram. From my experience the SRI is louder at lower rpm. I like my CAI because it sounds almost stock until I get into it or get beyond 3000 rpm, so when ppl come for a ride they are pleasantly surprised when I push it. I don't know how much actual power I've gained. It seems like I might have got a couple extra hp but definitely more throttle response.
Did your butt dyno tell you that? You actually loose power if anything, at least you won't gain anything noticeable. You loose the factory airbox resonance, the motor is tuned to run with a factory air box, intake, exhaust, heck any mod. So any upgrade you do really doesn't do a whole lot without the electronic half of the vehicle compensating for it. Really you will think your car is faster because it sounds faster, that's about it. To get any real power out of the F's you have to boost, sadly. Unless you're GhostAccord and feel like making yourself a custom set of ITB's and tuning under Mega Squirt. lol
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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The guy is wondering which one to buy, not whether to buy or not. Obviously spending as little as possible for the "sound effect" and flash would be the best choice.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SlamsItIn
The guy is wondering which one to buy, not whether to buy or not. Obviously spending as little as possible for the "sound effect" and flash would be the best choice.
I completely get that, I'm just restating the fact that you won't make much power if any at all with one.
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 08:30 AM
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Agreed
Potugueboy10 let us know what you decided to do
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Old Aug 1, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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Alright you guys i will let you know what i get thanks for the help
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Default Re: 1994 honda accord Short Ram or CAI?

i was thinking of just doing a drop in filter with factory airbox if anything. ive learned from previous cars you dont really get that noticeable of a gain..
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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 91grape
i was thinking of just doing a drop in filter with factory airbox if anything. ive learned from previous cars you dont really get that noticeable of a gain..
We covered that.

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