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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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I have no rear seats in my EG hatch . I have looked and looked and cant seem to find rear seats at all for my hatch on craigslist or ebay .

I currently have only one idea :

http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...s/DSCF0287.JPG

rear seat delete and

one of these maybe actually mounted to the flat area in back , maybe fab some holes in the removable center wood area and then i could pull a seat belt up through it to make it work ?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/16617605?w...308550&veh=sem

Basically i would be installing a rear delete to make it flat in back and then mounting the flat base to the back area and pulling center seat belt through the delete to secure the baby car seat base even better .

Anyone else think this could work or got a better idea ?
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 04:58 PM
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put the seat back in do you really feel like gambling with your babys life
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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it shouldnt be any different then having a seat in the back if the base is securely mounted with the seatbelts
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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i would want a better base then that though that was just a example pic of wally worlds site .
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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http://www.dallasimports.net/forums/...owtopic=125089

see i could secure this right in middle with the original middle seat belt that way the base never moves and is pulled tight to flat rear seat delete . the rear seat base mounts look like many are made to be on a flat surface
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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Stop, pardon my French, ******* around with with a kids life. I put rear seats back in my car because I have to take care of a 4 year old nephew. I wouldn't even consider anything you're talking about.
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Just called my local police department and they said this :

"The child must be secured in the child restraint and the child restraint must be properly secured to the vehicle."

The child restraint sytems have been put in two seat pickups with a flat area in back of driver and passenger seats .

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Straight from local PD
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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ok anyways i wouldnt ever put my kid in danger trust me they will go in the wifes grand am if this even budges a bit but im still putting the kit in my eg and will look into a hefty mount to test it on . i might get a bigger seat to try and mount in first and put my buddys 15 year old in it and take him for a spin hitting brakes and corners . if his 130 lbs *** dont budge then i may beef it up and put the smaller seat in for short rides of highways and stuff like rides to park .

until then ill still be on the search for seats as well since the delete kit can come right out
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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I have a base strapped in the back seat of my type r swapped ek........she will probably never ride in it until she is old enough to ride up front sitting her butt on the seat. You should just buy a 1300 dollar eg on craigslist haha the baby hauler
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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You folks are being dramatic, having a seat anchored to the car is just as safe as having it sitting on top of a f'n seat, have you people never removed your back seats? The dangerous part is owning and driving a 2000lb 90s civic missing the 40 airbags found on a new car anyway.

tice in the.pic the rear seat delete, your idea would sit on the removable access areas making it not work. If you were to fasten a permanently fixed area to the frame in the back im sure it would work, and probably be tighter since it wouldnt be impeded by the seats.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 01:08 AM
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you know you can put in dc and ek rear seat in the eg chassis right! they got plenty of them for sale on ebay now they hard part is do you still have seat belt and the receiver in the back.


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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 03:17 AM
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I have eg hatch rear seats
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 03:24 AM
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You folks are being dramatic, having a seat anchored to the car is just as safe as having it sitting on top of a f'n seat, have you people never removed your back seats? The dangerous part is owning and driving a 2000lb 90s civic missing the 40 airbags found on a new car anyway.

tice in the.pic the rear seat delete, your idea would sit on the removable access areas making it not work. If you were to fasten a permanently fixed area to the frame in the back im sure it would work, and probably be tighter since it wouldnt be impeded by the seats.
Driving can kill you, period. Don't over dramatize either.

Rig up **** if you want. Unless you are supremely confident in your own handiwork, I'd rather be that much safer by running it the way it came from the factory. Maybe the seats are PART of the way the safety restraint system was/is supposed to work? Something to consider.

Can't find rear seats? Not looking hard enough. ^^People seem to be parting out cars all the time. Check the Marketplace? WTB ad? Junkyard?
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
Driving can kill you, period. Don't over dramatize either.

Rig up **** if you want. Unless you are supremely confident in your own handiwork, I'd rather be that much safer by running it the way it came from the factory. Maybe the seats are PART of the way the safety restraint system was/is supposed to work? Something to consider.

Can't find rear seats? Not looking hard enough. ^^People seem to be parting out cars all the time. Check the Marketplace? WTB ad? Junkyard?
That pretty much says it all.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 05:07 AM
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Stick the kid in the front seats and put your wife in the back.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 04:44 PM
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I have the delete on the way , but i will still be wanting to find seats to put in the back since the delete can come out in 20-30 mins of work .

I talked to the company that is going to make the delete for me and they said they can customize the delete so there is no access to the fuel pump making it totally flat in that middle seat area with no access spot . Also instead of making the delete out of half inch ultra light mdf they are going to make it out of solid mdf that is 3 quarter inch thick . On top of the stronger materials they are also going to cut a piece of 10 gauge steel plating to go on top or bottom of delete that covers the whole top/bottom surface .

When delete comes and i install it i will add in two by fours horizontally down the middle of the delete attaching and reinforcing the left and right sides so there is absolutely no play . My mother is a carpenter and has volunteered to come down and over look the framing when we get started on the project to see if there is anymore we could add to reinforce it . I think she was talking about seeing if we could use hurricane clips in the install to totally stiffen things up as well .

We shall see how it turns out, i am very confident we will be able to have multiple people in back of car and tons of weight without so much as a budge or shift with delete . Like instrument said the restraint system itself is already safety compliant and met all standards . I have two ways of using it in my car . A : with a latching system or B: with original seat belts ( Whether seat is there or not ) or maybe a combo of latching system and cars seat belts going through click n go base .
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Lizardslap
put the seat back in do you really feel like gambling with your babys life
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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Stop, pardon my French, ******* around with a kids life. I put rear seats back in my car because I have to take care of a 4 year old nephew. I wouldn't even consider anything you're talking about.

^^^^What part of that is so hard to get?!

Put the damn car back the way Honda designed it or don't put a child in it. Your choice.

I guaran-damn-tee you, it's gonna be a HELL of a lot cheaper than all the therapy you'll need if your mods inadvertently cause your child's death.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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A better idea would be to get a more practical car. You've got to put your priorities in order. It's not that what you have in mind would be unsafe, it's just the stigma of bolting your child to the floor. Imagine your conversation with every cop that pulls you over. You're going to have to explain to everyone why you don't have a back seat, and how your setup is safe.

I can't imagine your wife is happy about your plan. Do yourself a favor and do what is best for everyone involved.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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LAWLZ

man i guess there just isnt explaining this is there lol .

If The seat and base were put in a normal hatch with seats would sit on a piece of cushion that is literally held in with some **** thats a tad thicker than a hanger . What makes that any more susceptible to failure in a accident ?

It does not matter if the base that the car seat CLICKS into is put into a vehicle with a flat surface or a seat . I called the graco and they explained to me that because normal seats scoop like a bucket many have to tilt the seat system a certain degree with pool floaties to make the seat level because the base mount is meant to be put on a flat surface . I can also use the latching system in conjunction with the seat belt by installing a latching system into the hatch like this :

Latch
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http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...psc49d83b7.jpg

Latch installed
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http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps5622ec46.jpg

All you guys keep seeing in your heads is a accident were my delete is breaking or coming loose . What makes the delete any more breakable then a piece of 3 inch thick cushion under the seat ?

It does not matter if there is a seat under the base with a seatbelt going through it or if there is a flat surface with THE SEAT BELT still going through it GAWD.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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I have a grand am as well im talking about this for a around town or to grandmas house when mom has the car type thing .
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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You could also retrofit a latching system this way if you really wanted to but his method scares me a bit with the hole drilling ( im sure its a steel car prob ) :

http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-...stem-retrofit/
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Ok, so you have the bottom of the back seat "figured out". What about the back? Not to be a dick, but I would hate to be your child. Put a back seat back in. I stripped my ej1, then had a kid. I didn't buy a new car, I put the interior back in.
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 09:43 PM
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ITT, horribleness
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Old Aug 20, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nickelz34
If The seat and base were put in a normal hatch with seats would sit on a piece of cushion that is literally held in with some **** thats a tad thicker than a hanger . What makes that any more susceptible to failure in a accident ?

Um NO! maybe because the automakers have done crash tests and R&D on this, and don't forget the DOT APPROVED seat belts.

What makes you think your idea is better than their "cheap cushion and hangers"?
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