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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 05:19 AM
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friends, I have a problem...

I need to change the bushing of the upper control arm.

I buy the beck arnely from amazon 101-4510 but they are made from taiwan.

then I buy the moog k200120 from ebay hopping they are better quality and they are made from spain... but I found they are a little bigger.

they say to fit the same car and the same years...

from what I see the k200120 are like the civic 96 to 2000 and the 101-4510 are like the civic 92-95...

what do you think guys?

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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 05:33 AM
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the k200120 are like the civic 96 to 2000 and the 101-4510 are like the civic 92-95.
You may have answered your own question. But not once did you say what car this is going on.

And checking those part numbers indicates they are for both generations. The sleeve itself is the same size.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:02 AM
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thank`s for your answer,

I check in the web and they are the same replacement...

but obviously they are not the same...

in the moog website they say fit civic 92-97 but I don`t think the civic 92 have the same upper control arm like the civic 97 right?
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:06 AM
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Jeez. It's the size of the SLEEVE that matters. Why do you not just compare them to the OEM ones you are replacing?
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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well i have 3 moog brand k90061 in front of me right now and all 3 are different OD and ID and different inner sleve length...lol..gotta love this ish.

btw, i am trying to replace my front LCA inner bushings.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:43 AM
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I would just use the set that matches the OEM stuff already on there.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:59 AM
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well i havent tore it down yet and i wanna have the right bushings so i dont get stuck with a disabled car thats un driveable..ya know
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 07:05 AM
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Okay. I was just thinking, pull the UCA and examine the bushings before you press them out.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 02:32 PM
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i would have just spend couple more bucks and order a complete upper control arm
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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i personally am replacing my whole uppers to get rid of the skunk2 uca's so it can be oem and just have natural camber.

The lowers i insist on doing bushings only because i do not trust the dorman/chinese front LCA's
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 05:53 AM
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today I take out the upper control arm...

I forget to tell you this control arm are for accord 96...

but I post in the civic forum because the bushing are for civic...

picture 1 with beck arnely from amazon 101-4510



picture 2 with moog k200120



obviusly the accord use the same bushing of the civic 9295.

now the moog k200120 they says it`s fit to civic 9296.

they have to be the same...

what are the problem here?
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by charliccs
today I take out the upper control arm...

I forget to tell you this control arm are for accord 96...

but I post in the civic forum because the bushing are for civic...


WTF aren't you using Moog part number K200358 that SPECIFICALLY fits your Accord? That's what you get for trying to mix and match parts from unrelated vehicles. If you want to know why the difference, maybe stop wasting time here and contact Moog!
And to think this has been in the wrong forum all this time.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 06:11 AM
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the moog is wrong. i have 7 moog k90061 front inner lower bushing for the LCA and ALL 7 bushings are different from one another.

Im gonna order them through honda.. f this
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 06:17 AM
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The Moog is OBVIOUSLY wrong. Why the OP needs to know why is beyond me.
Example. I ordered MOOG RTA bushings for a 93 Integra trailing arm for my swap and they were too small. Did this twice. The seller insisted that because MOOG says they fit that somehow I may have not had what I thought I did. After much bickering back and forth I finally showed him MOOG was wrong. Wound up ordering Hardrace bushings that fit perfectly.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 06:53 AM
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hardrace is the way to go, or oem honda
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 07:00 AM
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Default Re: bushing confusion moog k200120 beck arnley 101-4510 picture

Originally Posted by grumblemarc


WTF aren't you using Moog part number K200358 that SPECIFICALLY fits your Accord?
that is the number parts I need...

now how did you find that????

because If you check moog web site and searh by car accord 96 they didn`t not have the front upper control arm bushing...

they never show that part number...

and I bought for the bushing civic because in ebay there is a roca bushing that fit to civic 92-96 and accord 90-97

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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by charliccs
that is the number parts I need...

now how did you find that????
Ebay. Took me 5 seconds.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moog-K200358-Upper-Control-Arm-Bushing-Or-Kit-/180934169257?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1996%7CModel%3AAccord&hash=item2a208452a9&vxp=mtrYou should just stick to OEM parts.
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Old Jun 25, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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thank`s that is the part number I need...
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