screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 24, 2013 | 07:23 AM
  #1  
Zack Gunther's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Default screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

got a 91 civic hatch dx. just finished putting everything back together after doing the conversion. im getting a crank no start condition. iv got spark and fuel but it wont start. iv double checked all my wirring for the dizzy and ecu and it is all correct and im not sure were to go from here... any ideas?

also, before i did the swap my car was dieng at random times the idle would be very speratic woul fluctuate up and down or just be very high. somebody said it could be a tps... idk. but it eventually died and wouldnt start back up.

somebody please help... thanks!
Reply
Old May 24, 2013 | 07:50 AM
  #2  
4drEF's Avatar
Keyboard Humorist
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,814
Likes: 11
From: Granada Hills, Ca, USA
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

ECU throwing any codes?

Try switching the two white wires on the distributor?
Reply
Old May 24, 2013 | 08:05 AM
  #3  
Zack Gunther's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

its not throwing codes... checked the white wires pretty sure there right swithced anyways same thing...wont start. i keep seeing people saying switch the tps wires but not sure which ones to switch?
Reply
Old May 24, 2013 | 09:34 AM
  #4  
ED3 SEDAN-GSR's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
From: South bend, in
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

The two outside wires on the tps plug. Leave the middle one where its at. But that shouldnt keep it from starting. Have the icm and coil checked. When i did my gsr swap both the icm and coil were bad and it wouldnt start. As soon as i replaced them it fired right up
Reply
Old May 24, 2013 | 02:12 PM
  #5  
Zack Gunther's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

well i just found my compression tester... it read a big fat 0 on 1 2 and 3... didnt even bother with 4!
Reply
Old May 25, 2013 | 12:44 AM
  #6  
swordofdoom's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
From: Lincoln, WTF, USA
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

Fried piston rings. A buddy of mine had this problem. It would crank over and over but never start. He took the motor apart and viola. Rings were shot worst than ****.
Reply
Old May 25, 2013 | 04:58 AM
  #7  
Creator's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,007
Likes: 1
From: NOVA, usa
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

Zero in three of the cylinders? No one else found that odd? I've wasted a few motors in my time, but I've never seen zero across the board.
Reply
Old May 25, 2013 | 07:11 AM
  #8  
Zack Gunther's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

just took the head off and im pretty sure the exhaust valves on all the cylinders are burned up... they look pretty well screwed. can bad valves cause 0 compresion?
Reply
Old May 25, 2013 | 08:38 AM
  #9  
90_EX_Civic's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,689
Likes: 1
From: PA, US
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

Originally Posted by Zack Gunther
just took the head off and im pretty sure the exhaust valves on all the cylinders are burned up... they look pretty well screwed. can bad valves cause 0 compresion?
yes
Reply
Old May 25, 2013 | 08:56 AM
  #10  
Zack Gunther's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

yea thts what i thought... what would cause burned valves on all cylinders?
Reply
Old May 25, 2013 | 06:32 PM
  #11  
HEADS OR TAILS's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
From: Escondido,Ca
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

misfire, detonation etc..
Reply
Old May 28, 2013 | 07:35 AM
  #12  
4drEF's Avatar
Keyboard Humorist
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,814
Likes: 11
From: Granada Hills, Ca, USA
Default Re: screwed up obd1 mpfi conversion

FYI:
The TPS wires won't create a no-start situation.
The Two white wires do create a no-start.
You should have put a cap full of oil in each cylinder after finding the zero compression especially if the motor had been sitting for a long period of time.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
98gsr-808-91dx
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
9
Nov 17, 2009 04:36 PM
HONDAlover369
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
3
Sep 19, 2008 12:47 PM
93NTEGLS
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
13
Mar 4, 2007 03:05 PM
100whplusperliter
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
9
Jun 7, 2005 01:58 PM
PrecisionPerformanceParts
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
9
Apr 13, 2005 09:33 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:22 PM.