h22 into a integra hard to do
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (mipawi)
a difficult swap but can be done...
PARTS REQUIRED
H Series Motor
A Mount kit (www.hasport.com) (www.placeracing.com)
Custom axles
Custom Radiator
Custom Radiator Fan
Custom Welding of Catalyst
90-97 Accord Shift Linkage, all lines running up to cabin
97-00 Prelude Power Steering Line
General Knowledge of Wiring.
it is obviously hard to do because of the size. so the radiator and radiator fan must be custom (smaller) to fit. also the sift linkage is kinda a bitch. also... the h22 sits about 2 inches lower than the b18's... so you need custom axles. some other stuff has to be done as well such as wiring, and welding the cat. to the headers.
PARTS REQUIRED
H Series Motor
A Mount kit (www.hasport.com) (www.placeracing.com)
Custom axles
Custom Radiator
Custom Radiator Fan
Custom Welding of Catalyst
90-97 Accord Shift Linkage, all lines running up to cabin
97-00 Prelude Power Steering Line
General Knowledge of Wiring.
it is obviously hard to do because of the size. so the radiator and radiator fan must be custom (smaller) to fit. also the sift linkage is kinda a bitch. also... the h22 sits about 2 inches lower than the b18's... so you need custom axles. some other stuff has to be done as well such as wiring, and welding the cat. to the headers.
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (RAF LTD.)
doesnt the H22 cause mad overheating sometimes?
i am running a dual core civic aluminum radiator with no fan right now (due to small accident) and I still drive it round everyday and never over heats unless I sit idle for more than 20 minutes.
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (smallttocs)
H22 can go smooth as hell if u know what ur getting into before u do the swap..best bet is to hit up the hybrid section and ask or search for questions..the setup is kinda similar to the civic eg h22 swap..for the most part here is the breakdown..im doin this swap into my '94 RS..all i can say is read read and read the posts in the hybrid forum..
my costs & predicted costs of setup
jdm '95 h22 swap)complete & clean as hell!!!) $2100
Iceman intake $160
DSS stage 1 axles $400
HCP or Hasport mounts $350(both mounts require hackin part of or all the tranny mount)
slimfan $65
wiring harness(need core and h22 to mate together)
*hookin up the shift cable to the cabin..(not 2 hard may require some cutting)
*hookin up the AC and power steering may also take a lil extra work
* might have to do some custom work hookin up the cat to the header
**new timing belt..and top and bottom gasket kits would also b nice as a slight rebuild just to be on the safe side..this is what im doin the motor is out and it is much easier to work on
a sweet suspension setup:
Koni SP3 shocks $510
Eibach/Ground Control ERS coilover sleeves (400F & 475R) stiffen up that front!!
stock front swaybar with ITR rear
Carbing or Mugen strut tower bars ( something with no pivot points)
these are just the basic stuff u need to get the motor in and running properly...i cant wait to get this motor in..i feel that it is much harder than the normal b series swap but hey..i think for a nice everyday driver the TQ will b nice to rip through streets..have fun
not needed but would b nice 2 add:
hotshot or greddy or dc/IB modded or SMSP header
2.5" exhaust setup
OBD1 P72 gsr ecu w/ hondata s200 (this would make killer topend)
type s pistons
milled head .0025
skunk cam gears
after this get ready to rip!! make sure u have fun!!
[Modified by Project H22DC4, 10:31 AM 2/21/2003]
my costs & predicted costs of setup
jdm '95 h22 swap)complete & clean as hell!!!) $2100
Iceman intake $160
DSS stage 1 axles $400
HCP or Hasport mounts $350(both mounts require hackin part of or all the tranny mount)
slimfan $65
wiring harness(need core and h22 to mate together)
*hookin up the shift cable to the cabin..(not 2 hard may require some cutting)
*hookin up the AC and power steering may also take a lil extra work
* might have to do some custom work hookin up the cat to the header
**new timing belt..and top and bottom gasket kits would also b nice as a slight rebuild just to be on the safe side..this is what im doin the motor is out and it is much easier to work on
a sweet suspension setup:
Koni SP3 shocks $510
Eibach/Ground Control ERS coilover sleeves (400F & 475R) stiffen up that front!!
stock front swaybar with ITR rear
Carbing or Mugen strut tower bars ( something with no pivot points)
these are just the basic stuff u need to get the motor in and running properly...i cant wait to get this motor in..i feel that it is much harder than the normal b series swap but hey..i think for a nice everyday driver the TQ will b nice to rip through streets..have fun
not needed but would b nice 2 add:
hotshot or greddy or dc/IB modded or SMSP header
2.5" exhaust setup
OBD1 P72 gsr ecu w/ hondata s200 (this would make killer topend)
type s pistons
milled head .0025
skunk cam gears
after this get ready to rip!! make sure u have fun!!
[Modified by Project H22DC4, 10:31 AM 2/21/2003]
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (96LsTeg)
Hey prospeed (if you still post here), how much for the h22 swap?
Good guy to deal with
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (2k1_ITR_0736)
may i ask why the hell you wold want an H22 rather than a b series?
Honda reliablity.
The weight issue is blown out of proportion. It weighs about as much as a turbo gsr.
CF hood and aftermarket header will fix any weight issues.
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (jaymar88)
The weight issue is blown out of proportion. It weighs about as much as a turbo gsr.
CF hood and aftermarket header will fix any weight issues.
CF hood and aftermarket header will fix any weight issues.
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (SMZ GSR)
smz gsr, the link doesn't work. The reason i'm interested in the h22 is because its so cheap. I see JDM h22 longblocks going for $1000-1300. And the only b-series motors that i can drop is either a b18c1 or c5 and the c5 cost a grip.
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (96LsTeg)
I just completed another h22 in a teg , it is very easy, I have all the pics you will need and all information if you are serious. There are many budget ways of doing this swap and it comes out VERY CLEAN and will save you plenty of cash. PM me if you like and I can fill you in on all the details, and send you all the pics /wiring/ vaccum diagrams you will need. Don't be discouraged by all the BS out there it is not very hard at all!
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (H22EK)
I just completed another h22 in a teg , it is very easy, I have all the pics you will need and all information if you are serious. There are many budget ways of doing this swap and it comes out VERY CLEAN and will save you plenty of cash. PM me if you like and I can fill you in on all the details, and send you all the pics /wiring/ vaccum diagrams you will need. Don't be discouraged by all the BS out there it is not very hard at all!
hey im interested!! pm sent
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (H22EK)
Originally posted by VN-TEC Project Car - H22A Powered Integra
A conversion from B18C1, to H23A1, to JDM H22A VTEC PARTS REQUIRED H Series Motor
A Mount kit Custom axles Custom Radiator Custom Radiaotr Fan Custom Welding of
Catalyst 90-97 Accord Shift Linkage, all lines running up to cabin 97-00 Prelude
Power Steering Line General Knowledge of Wiring. A 92-00 Civic, A 90-00 Integra
A VTEC Ecu (P-13) (P-28) . January 13th, A Wrecked 95 Integra Gsr was purchased,
no motor, ecu, and rims.
I purchased a Fully Built H23A1 Block, It was supposibly 11.5:1 Compression with
Arias pistons, it was bought for 1500 Dollars.
MOTOR Since it was only
a block, a head and transmission had to be purchased. Since we were starting off
from scratch we needed basically everything. So the cheapest route was to purchase
a Blown H23 motor. We searched for weeks and we finally got one, a H23a1 with
a spun bearing! It was purchased at a Local Shop "All Motor Works", we got a killer
deal for 900, but that price included....A jdm h22a tranny with lsd! This was
great because the motor was built for All Motor, so the high revving H22 tranny
would be perfect. So with the motor finally in hand, we started the long process
of transplanting the parts off the blown motor onto the "Mint" block. Many misc.
parts had to be purchased for the swap. We of course needed custom mounts because
the H22/H23 Design wasnt really made to go into smaller cars (integras, civics,
hatchbacks) MOUNTS I went shopping for numerous brands of mounts, there was HCP,
HASPORT, PLACE RACING, and a few others. HCP was 300 Dollars, Hasport was 650,
Place Racing was 650 also. HCP mounts are a duplicate of HAsport mounts, so spending
650 on HAsport wasnt a good idea because u can get the generic ones. But with
more research and talking to a few people who have done these swaps told me that
HAsport mounts mount the motor too close to the driver side. So i wanted to settle
for the best, i went with the Place Racing Mounts.
GETTING THE MOTOR IN With the motor assembled and tranny bolted on, it was time
to put the motor in the car. With the place racing mounts, the issue of the motor
sitting too close to the driver side has been solved by making a mount bolting
on to the chassis and not onto the origional mount, so the stock passenger side
mount had to be sawed off.
RADIATOR The Stock Radiator was also intruding the engine installation, so it
was removed and the motor was dropped in. We later installed the radiator and
it did not fit. So we measured it up to specs and got a custom one made. The Stock
radiator fan also didnt fit, it hit the header. So we got a Super Slim radiator
fan and installed it.(Pics up soon) AXLES With the motor in the car, it was time
to do the axles. With HCP and HASPORT mounts, u can use a 90-93 Accord Intermediate
shaft, with Integra Axles. But A H22 swap like this inside an integra/civic makes
the H22 sits 2 inches lower then normal. This improves center of gravity but should
require Custom axles because the motor sits low, which in turn makes the inner
joint tighter together and making the axleshaft smaller. With Place Racing Mounts,
the motor sits inside the engine bay pretty much in the middle, but completely
elimates the possibility to use the Accord Intermediate shaft, Integra Axles Combo.
I had a local shop in fresno Custom make me my axles for only 90 Dollars, I dont
know how much they charge normally because i got hooked up. Custom axles should
be 15 3/4'th Inches long. SHIFT LINKAGE Some people say you can use a 92-96 Prelude
Shift linkage, but nope. For some reason it didnt work on my car. The lines are
too long, i talked to a few local shops again and they told me to get a 90-97
Accord Shift Linkage. You will need the bracket, all clips and lines that operate
the shift linkage system. Due to the fact that The H Series motor use Cable Transmissions
rather then Hydralic like the Integras and Civics use. You will need to drill
a hole big enough to run the Cable lines from inside the car to the motor. The
hold should be about 10 inchs big to be on the safe side. It is HIGHLY recommended
to cover the hole because debri, and water can come splashing in. Also inside
the car you will need to drill the shifting bracket to the car. This was fairly
simple.
, thanks to JDMSHIT.com
POWER STEERING AND A/C My car is not currently running PS or A/C. But I have heard,
and know for a fact that all you need is a 97-00 Power Steering Line to get it
running. The A/C on the other hand needs a custom bracket to fit the A/C pump.
ECU'S AND WIRING My cars
stock ECU wiring was cut because of the previous theft it has gone through. Since
I was running a H23, It was non VTEC, so i opted for a P75 ECU. It is a Integra
LS Ecu. *Note* If you are running a Integra/Civic ECU, it will need to be chipped
to employ the needed fuel for a 2.2+ Liter engine. The reason why i recommend
using this Ecu for a H23 swap is because it gets rid of the EGR valve, Knock Sensors,
and the Butterfly valve mechanism can be removed for a more direct air flow. I
am also using a Non Vtec LS wiring harness. (Pics up soon) CUSTOM CATALYST WELDING
Of course the Integra Catalyst wouldnt work, Mainly because i am trying to keep
it smog legal so a Prelude Cat was used. The end which connects to the cat back
piping was welding to fit onto a Integra Cat back, This way I can change headers
if i like. (Pics up soon) With everything wired up, it was time to start the car.
All Hopes were up high, but disaster struck when the motor Knocked like a BITCH!
It turns out the motor was over raced and there was piston slap going on. Pissed
off, I took the motor back to the owner of it. And owner of a Local Shop also.
He refused to pay me back my 1500, and he gave me a bunch of BS on how we installed
it wrong. Even more pissed off now, I brought my cousin over, which is the owner
of Quick Care. We had a long Unfriendly talk and he finally agreed to pay me back
1200 with a brand new Alpine TYPE R Subwoofer.
With 1200 in hand, I
went to All Motor Works again and bought a long block H22A for 700 only. Mainly
because im a good customer and he hooked me up, there was no transmission needed
because i already had one. (Pics up soon of new motor) Now the installation of
the H22A was fairly simple, same wiring, the LS wiring harness plugged right up.
But we had to install 3 wires, they were for the VTEC Activation. There was also
two week delay, because the motor came with no downpipe, so a DC Sport Ceramic
Header was ordered. I picked up a P13 Ecu (OBD1 H22A VTEC ECU) and plugged it
in. We cranked the motor but it didnt start. We checked for spark and Whola. No
Spark. It is a common problem because a resister box was required for the Injectors.
My cousin suggested to test a Chipped P28 Ecu. Once again, we went to All Motor
Works and they supplied us with a GENUINE, JDM Mugen P28! With it plugged in,
we cranked it and it started! Success!!! The car is finally running and should
be hitting mid to low 13s. Mainly because i have Quite a few mods. Intake DC Sport
Header Custom Exhaust ACT HDSS Clutch Lightweight Flywheel FINAL WORDS I have
no new pictures of it with the H22 In, however I will be sure to get some. If
ANY of you guys need pictures of ANYTHING of the swap, dont hesitate to contact
me. The swap i think went pretty well. If we had all the parts in hand, the swap
could easily be done in about a day or two. But be sure to have your axles made,
and radiator measured because waiting for them is very time consuming. Email Supraman28@hotmail.com
A conversion from B18C1, to H23A1, to JDM H22A VTEC PARTS REQUIRED H Series Motor
A Mount kit Custom axles Custom Radiator Custom Radiaotr Fan Custom Welding of
Catalyst 90-97 Accord Shift Linkage, all lines running up to cabin 97-00 Prelude
Power Steering Line General Knowledge of Wiring. A 92-00 Civic, A 90-00 Integra
A VTEC Ecu (P-13) (P-28) . January 13th, A Wrecked 95 Integra Gsr was purchased,
no motor, ecu, and rims.
I purchased a Fully Built H23A1 Block, It was supposibly 11.5:1 Compression with
Arias pistons, it was bought for 1500 Dollars.
a block, a head and transmission had to be purchased. Since we were starting off
from scratch we needed basically everything. So the cheapest route was to purchase
a Blown H23 motor. We searched for weeks and we finally got one, a H23a1 with
a spun bearing! It was purchased at a Local Shop "All Motor Works", we got a killer
deal for 900, but that price included....A jdm h22a tranny with lsd! This was
great because the motor was built for All Motor, so the high revving H22 tranny
would be perfect. So with the motor finally in hand, we started the long process
of transplanting the parts off the blown motor onto the "Mint" block. Many misc.
parts had to be purchased for the swap. We of course needed custom mounts because
the H22/H23 Design wasnt really made to go into smaller cars (integras, civics,
hatchbacks) MOUNTS I went shopping for numerous brands of mounts, there was HCP,
HASPORT, PLACE RACING, and a few others. HCP was 300 Dollars, Hasport was 650,
Place Racing was 650 also. HCP mounts are a duplicate of HAsport mounts, so spending
650 on HAsport wasnt a good idea because u can get the generic ones. But with
more research and talking to a few people who have done these swaps told me that
HAsport mounts mount the motor too close to the driver side. So i wanted to settle
for the best, i went with the Place Racing Mounts.
GETTING THE MOTOR IN With the motor assembled and tranny bolted on, it was time
to put the motor in the car. With the place racing mounts, the issue of the motor
sitting too close to the driver side has been solved by making a mount bolting
on to the chassis and not onto the origional mount, so the stock passenger side
mount had to be sawed off.
RADIATOR The Stock Radiator was also intruding the engine installation, so it
was removed and the motor was dropped in. We later installed the radiator and
it did not fit. So we measured it up to specs and got a custom one made. The Stock
radiator fan also didnt fit, it hit the header. So we got a Super Slim radiator
fan and installed it.(Pics up soon) AXLES With the motor in the car, it was time
to do the axles. With HCP and HASPORT mounts, u can use a 90-93 Accord Intermediate
shaft, with Integra Axles. But A H22 swap like this inside an integra/civic makes
the H22 sits 2 inches lower then normal. This improves center of gravity but should
require Custom axles because the motor sits low, which in turn makes the inner
joint tighter together and making the axleshaft smaller. With Place Racing Mounts,
the motor sits inside the engine bay pretty much in the middle, but completely
elimates the possibility to use the Accord Intermediate shaft, Integra Axles Combo.
I had a local shop in fresno Custom make me my axles for only 90 Dollars, I dont
know how much they charge normally because i got hooked up. Custom axles should
be 15 3/4'th Inches long. SHIFT LINKAGE Some people say you can use a 92-96 Prelude
Shift linkage, but nope. For some reason it didnt work on my car. The lines are
too long, i talked to a few local shops again and they told me to get a 90-97
Accord Shift Linkage. You will need the bracket, all clips and lines that operate
the shift linkage system. Due to the fact that The H Series motor use Cable Transmissions
rather then Hydralic like the Integras and Civics use. You will need to drill
a hole big enough to run the Cable lines from inside the car to the motor. The
hold should be about 10 inchs big to be on the safe side. It is HIGHLY recommended
to cover the hole because debri, and water can come splashing in. Also inside
the car you will need to drill the shifting bracket to the car. This was fairly
simple.
POWER STEERING AND A/C My car is not currently running PS or A/C. But I have heard,
and know for a fact that all you need is a 97-00 Power Steering Line to get it
running. The A/C on the other hand needs a custom bracket to fit the A/C pump.
stock ECU wiring was cut because of the previous theft it has gone through. Since
I was running a H23, It was non VTEC, so i opted for a P75 ECU. It is a Integra
LS Ecu. *Note* If you are running a Integra/Civic ECU, it will need to be chipped
to employ the needed fuel for a 2.2+ Liter engine. The reason why i recommend
using this Ecu for a H23 swap is because it gets rid of the EGR valve, Knock Sensors,
and the Butterfly valve mechanism can be removed for a more direct air flow. I
am also using a Non Vtec LS wiring harness. (Pics up soon) CUSTOM CATALYST WELDING
Of course the Integra Catalyst wouldnt work, Mainly because i am trying to keep
it smog legal so a Prelude Cat was used. The end which connects to the cat back
piping was welding to fit onto a Integra Cat back, This way I can change headers
if i like. (Pics up soon) With everything wired up, it was time to start the car.
All Hopes were up high, but disaster struck when the motor Knocked like a BITCH!
It turns out the motor was over raced and there was piston slap going on. Pissed
off, I took the motor back to the owner of it. And owner of a Local Shop also.
He refused to pay me back my 1500, and he gave me a bunch of BS on how we installed
it wrong. Even more pissed off now, I brought my cousin over, which is the owner
of Quick Care. We had a long Unfriendly talk and he finally agreed to pay me back
1200 with a brand new Alpine TYPE R Subwoofer.
went to All Motor Works again and bought a long block H22A for 700 only. Mainly
because im a good customer and he hooked me up, there was no transmission needed
because i already had one. (Pics up soon of new motor) Now the installation of
the H22A was fairly simple, same wiring, the LS wiring harness plugged right up.
But we had to install 3 wires, they were for the VTEC Activation. There was also
two week delay, because the motor came with no downpipe, so a DC Sport Ceramic
Header was ordered. I picked up a P13 Ecu (OBD1 H22A VTEC ECU) and plugged it
in. We cranked the motor but it didnt start. We checked for spark and Whola. No
Spark. It is a common problem because a resister box was required for the Injectors.
My cousin suggested to test a Chipped P28 Ecu. Once again, we went to All Motor
Works and they supplied us with a GENUINE, JDM Mugen P28! With it plugged in,
we cranked it and it started! Success!!! The car is finally running and should
be hitting mid to low 13s. Mainly because i have Quite a few mods. Intake DC Sport
Header Custom Exhaust ACT HDSS Clutch Lightweight Flywheel FINAL WORDS I have
no new pictures of it with the H22 In, however I will be sure to get some. If
ANY of you guys need pictures of ANYTHING of the swap, dont hesitate to contact
me. The swap i think went pretty well. If we had all the parts in hand, the swap
could easily be done in about a day or two. But be sure to have your axles made,
and radiator measured because waiting for them is very time consuming. Email Supraman28@hotmail.com
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do
i had my same H22A in my old EG coupe, used the stock radiator with a trimmed fan shroud, had no probs once i rerouted my tranny linkage cables..... have it in my DC now, pulls hard and fast, top speed in my EG was 144MPH now it's more after reworking the engine internals etc..... 
) i love it
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Re: h22 into a integra hard to do (Project H22DC4)
on that note..i found this on http://www.hasport.com/News/Projects/1994%20Integra.htm
i cant wait to put it in...i just need some more results on the h22 in the teg if this is worth it over the gsr..some let me know man!!
does anybody know if the center shifter console can fit over the h22 shifter..hopefully i wont have to cut a hole where the change holder is..
hasport h22 integra setup:
Engine Performance
H22A1 Swap
Hasport EGH1
Hondata GSR ECU
AEM Cold air Intake
Quaife LSD
Wheels
Konig
Yokohama
Fastbrakes big brake conversion
Exterior
Fiber Images carbon fiber hood
Interior
Konig Seatsand Steering wheel
AutoPower Rollcage and Seat Belts
Fry Fabrications door panels
Fry Fabrications gauge cluster trim
i cant wait to put it in...i just need some more results on the h22 in the teg if this is worth it over the gsr..some let me know man!!
does anybody know if the center shifter console can fit over the h22 shifter..hopefully i wont have to cut a hole where the change holder is..
hasport h22 integra setup:
Engine Performance
H22A1 Swap
Hasport EGH1
Hondata GSR ECU
AEM Cold air Intake
Quaife LSD
Wheels
Konig
Yokohama
Fastbrakes big brake conversion
Exterior
Fiber Images carbon fiber hood
Interior
Konig Seatsand Steering wheel
AutoPower Rollcage and Seat Belts
Fry Fabrications door panels
Fry Fabrications gauge cluster trim
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