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Old May 17, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Ok, i got a 1996 honda civic lx, I bought a 1999 ls with a garret turbo kit and i also had a b16 head. So i took it to a shop and they did the swap for me,
The motor came with 450 injectors and i got me friend to do chrome map on a p28 for my setup since i swap the head from ls to b16....

Well after fixing a little issue with the icva everything was working . Then my friend did a street tune for me and the car felt really strong , On our way back the car did a clicking noise inside the cabin and then shut off , I try to re-start the car and it didnt, after the second try it did start and it was fine ....

Couple days after that i took a 2 hour trip and the car was just fine until out of the blue the car just shut off again at a stop light i and a really strong smell like gas start, 5 minutes later i got to my destination, I park the car thinking maybe was the spark plugs so i went in my brothers car and got spark plugs put then in my car.The car start up but it was running really crappy. i had no choice but drive back , at low rpms was crappy but after 4k rpms it was ok....

Then when i got back to my house i check and the car its flooding the cylinder, I realize the 12v getting to the ignition switch was really weak so i ran a 4 gauge wire from the battery to the ignition switch , I also got a new p28 , I replace injectors to a 650 rc with fuel rail and fuel regulator, new ignition cap and rotor, brand new oem honda spark plug wiring for b16, ....

Now the car works on cylinders 1 and 4 ... I test compression and it got 180 psi + on all 4 cylinder ... now the car start but it runs like $H!!!T and if i take spark plug wires 2 and 3 it dont affect at all the engine but it does if i do the same to 1an 4 ...
i took to 2 different shops and they cant figure it out ..... i need help pls

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Old May 17, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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PLEASE check your grammar ! it's hard to tell what's going on here. so what im getting is your car is flooding the cyl's with fuel thus making it run like crap ?. 2nd the ign my be going out if it just "shut off" has it done it since.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:13 AM
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yeah, cyl are flooding. when i take the spark plug are wet
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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so are you getting spark...doesn't matter new plugs all that useless unless you're getting spark.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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I couldn't understand what you wrote and stopped reading after "I got to my destiny".




Please go back and re-edit your entry to make some form of sense. Also next time make a thread title that has some information in it.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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So you upgraded the injectors by 200cc and did NOT get tuned/mapped for the increased fuel? If that is the case that would explain the flooding.

Advice? Stop running on basemaps and get it tuned with a real EMS. CROME may work but it is long outdated and isn't being developed any longer as far as I know.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:18 AM
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^^ do i need to cancel my h-t account? you always beat me to the replies..lol

I was gonna say it sounds like the "street tune" is no good and it needs a real standalone.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Get your car done right.. none of these fly by night honda tuners who just enter random numbers on a computer chip.
Tuning includes a trip to the dyno shop and the car is tuned in a real time environment with the car running through the gears.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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i got a new p28 with the proper setup for the new injector...
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sleepyaccord96
^^ do i need to cancel my h-t account? you always beat me to the replies..lol

I was gonna say it sounds like the "street tune" is no good and it needs a real standalone.
It's a discussion. Not a race.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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my old p28 the tunner took it out of my car and put it inside a car with a similar setup just a bigger turbo he's first pull was 400 hp
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by civic1turbo2012
i got a new p28 with the proper setup for the new injector...
you're still NOT listing to us...get it tuned properly !
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by civic1turbo2012
my old p28 the tunner took it out of my car and put it inside a car with a similar setup just a bigger turbo he's first pull was 400 hp
So? And I don't think you got 400hp out ot 450cc injectors. So pardon me if I call BS on it.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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just to clear that out after the problem start i took it to d.r.t (drag racing technology) to get it tune. my issue its not the tune
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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dyno dont lie
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:35 AM
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Sure they do. So do people.
Go get a real EMS and get a real tune. Not a street tune.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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i did mention that i got rc 650 now
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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but any ways im just want to know if any one here has run into a similar issue.. thanks
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by civic1turbo2012
i did mention that i got rc 650 now
Originally Posted by grumblemarc
So you upgraded the injectors by 200cc and did NOT get tuned/mapped for the increased fuel? If that is the case that would explain the flooding.
You never answered the question. If you did let's see the dyno chart please.

I'm done here.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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OP clearly does not understand what you guys are saying or does not want to go get it tuned properly. There is no magic fix other than a good dyno tune.


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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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he said he heard a clicking sound. a failing or sticking main relay would do this check it
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